BAe Harrier II (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

Unlikely.

Gaijin thought normal lift dry thrust rating was short lift wet and so the harrier STR is only achieved with a thrust rating used exclusively for VTOL 😐

IRL the harrier could sustain these turns with the engine JPT limited to 650 degrees C

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I definetly think it would be perfect to come this year. All the pieces are set for it. Im really on fence whether it should get ASRAAM. I would prefer one with and one without, so that I had the choice, but if only one, I think id pick without purely for the more managable BR.

On the grounds its still sub-sonic… I was thinking more like 12.7 with 6x Aim-9Ms, unless BOL got fixed then definetly 13.0 because it can also run a TERMA pod for all-aspect MAWS.

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Well. We mention the Hawk and Gnat basically every other week in the RnR. So hopefully.

GR3A was actually the premium I was expecting not the T.10.

Gr9A. I reckon they wanted to avoid “too many harriers” or some BS like that. But also probably waiting for Sniper and MMW Brimstones to be a thing.

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“too many harriers” im waiting on :

T.2 (guns ONLY fighter/striker at a lower BR (9.0 ish?))

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T.4

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T.8

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GR.5 (tech tree aim9L version like the AV8B(NA)/T.10)

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GR.9A (early and later foldered together would be amazing)

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T.12 (aim9m counterpart to the T.10? could even be the premium with asraam if you wanted that?)

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Indian MK51 (and T MK60). not sure what weapons they used and if theyre different over the british ones? one in the image has a missile but i cant identify it)

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Also:

FIX the IR signatures of ALL harrier i and ii gen

FIX their Flight Performance

ADD Drop tanks too all harriers

Thank you :)

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Still haven’t even got a reply on the bug reports that are out lol.

FRS.1 later upgraded with Magics, Derby, & a EL/M-2032 radar sets. Can carry 4xmissles (ARH or IR) using TMC and guns.
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Also how can we covince the devs that the GRs II can carry 6 missiles?

Harrier even when throttling down to 50% can not flare an R-60MK with 6 flares.

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From whant i have heard, correct me if i am wrong but is the harriers nozzles in the game all 4 hot instead of beeing 2 cool on the front with hot air on the back making it in game harder to flair missiles?

That was just speculation. Devs have since confirmed that’s not the case.

Its to do with thrust IIRC but does each engine have its own thrust to flare ratio?

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Also can we talk about the GR9A and what will it bring to the table ? This is what i know correct me if i am wrong

Enhanced performance with new MK 107 engine

HMD

New weapons

New upgraded MFDs ??

Better cooling system for the engine

Better camera with better thermal quality on the noise

ECM capabilitys?? With the AN/ALQ 126 B ??

Betrer RWR

Spectral flairs and upgraded chaff , not on the BOL from what i know

Did i nail it ?

Also question does the harriers HMD get Datalink ?

The engines didn’t even get that hot in forward flight. Its all to do with Gaijins serious misunderstanding of the Harrier.

The combat plug rating of the Harrier one would automatically limit the jet pipe temps to 650 degrees C regardless of airspeed. In a wartime plug IIRC the engine was “unlocked” and you could force more power by pushing against a spring on the throttle.

So in game the harrier needs short lift wet 745 degrees C to reach a sustained turn the IRL plane could have done with just 650 degrees C.

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Did the GR9A have a Visual datalink target possision on the HMD ?

Like the A10
Like the Rafale

No, the HMSS Harrier GR9 had was just the same HMSS found on Jaguar GR3, when GR3 left service its HMSS kits were reused on some Tornado GR4 and Harrier GR9. We already have that set in game on the GR4 and it has all its functionality in game already.

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I see, also did i miss anything on the coment of features for the GR9A that i said above

Harrier GR9A would likely have these improvements in game, I’m not aware of the RWR or MFD’s getting updated.

Mk107
TERMA CM/MAW pod
Jaguar GR3 Striker HMSS
Paveway IV
Sniper (was also used on GR7).
100% LERX

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Is there a specific reason why we dont have this harrier in the game yet or is there also a reason why the GR7 and GR9A or the T10 cant get 6 sidewinders ?

Or the AOA beeing atleast from what i have heard 25 degrees not 18 .

Its been i think 2 years since the GR7 was added right ??

🤗

Report is up for the 6 Sidewinder loadouts but as with all weapon additions its up to the devs on the if/when.

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