That was just speculation. Devs have since confirmed that’s not the case.
Its to do with thrust IIRC but does each engine have its own thrust to flare ratio?
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Also can we talk about the GR9A and what will it bring to the table ? This is what i know correct me if i am wrong
Enhanced performance with new MK 107 engine
HMD
New weapons
New upgraded MFDs ??
Better cooling system for the engine
Better camera with better thermal quality on the noise
ECM capabilitys?? With the AN/ALQ 126 B ??
Betrer RWR
Spectral flairs and upgraded chaff , not on the BOL from what i know
Did i nail it ?
Also question does the harriers HMD get Datalink ?
The engines didn’t even get that hot in forward flight. Its all to do with Gaijins serious misunderstanding of the Harrier.
The combat plug rating of the Harrier one would automatically limit the jet pipe temps to 650 degrees C regardless of airspeed. In a wartime plug IIRC the engine was “unlocked” and you could force more power by pushing against a spring on the throttle.
So in game the harrier needs short lift wet 745 degrees C to reach a sustained turn the IRL plane could have done with just 650 degrees C.
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Did the GR9A have a Visual datalink target possision on the HMD ?
Like the A10
Like the Rafale
No, the HMSS Harrier GR9 had was just the same HMSS found on Jaguar GR3, when GR3 left service its HMSS kits were reused on some Tornado GR4 and Harrier GR9. We already have that set in game on the GR4 and it has all its functionality in game already.
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I see, also did i miss anything on the coment of features for the GR9A that i said above
Harrier GR9A would likely have these improvements in game, I’m not aware of the RWR or MFD’s getting updated.
Mk107
TERMA CM/MAW pod
Jaguar GR3 Striker HMSS
Paveway IV
Sniper (was also used on GR7).
100% LERX
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Is there a specific reason why we dont have this harrier in the game yet or is there also a reason why the GR7 and GR9A or the T10 cant get 6 sidewinders ?
Or the AOA beeing atleast from what i have heard 25 degrees not 18 .
Its been i think 2 years since the GR7 was added right ??
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Report is up for the 6 Sidewinder loadouts but as with all weapon additions its up to the devs on the if/when.
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Its probably for balance but the plane in ARB is not doing too well on its BR but in Sim its doing excellent i evem took it on 14.0 and hamered people but still needs the weapons upgrades with 6X aims and gr9a shoueld have been added since the AV8 B plus just without the ASRAAMs for now
Its just sad at this piont
Unless they are keeping the GR9A away from us for now till we get ASRAAMs in the game since it would be a good platform to test it in and not break the game…
I theory wouldnt break the game if only added for the GR9A … IF…
Only Paveway IV, and Enhanced Paveway II+III in reality.
Technically GR.7As also had EPW, but it was kind of part of the JUMP upgrades to GR.9.
Brimstone (the MMW-only one) was trialled and had emergency clearance. Harrier retired before Dual Mode Brimstone was in service. ASRAAM was planned, but cancelled quite early on because of the missile’s delayed entry in to service, and AIM-9L was considered sufficient for Harrier. Storm Shadow was planned but Harrier retired before it happened.
Still the same one AFAIK. It’s main use was navigation, so hardly needed to be high-resolution. The nose FLIR was pretty much surplus to requirement with a targeting pod being carried.
ALQ-126 was for American AV-8B. Ours never used podded ECM since Zeus has transmitter modules for jamming that the American ones do not.
Again, still Zeus.
British RWRs have been programmable and upgradable since the 80s, so there’s just a progressive update of threat libraries, and LRUs if they need hardware replacements.
GR.9 was going to benefit from more situational information provided by the TIEC datalink, with other aircraft and ground radars adding to the “sensor fusion” to improve the air picture. TIEC integration was still ongoing when the Harrier was retired.
Positional accuracy of locating threats benefitted from the addition of GPS.
Ed for clarity:-
A lot of what GR.9 was about, was simply standardising the Harrier fleet. Because by the mid-2000s the GR.7s were a total mixed bag with some planes having Mk.107 engines and others Mk.105s, some could carry TIALD and others couldn’t, some had a GPS and secure comms and some didn’t (which meant some could operate from carriers and some couldn’t), some could carry Mavericks and some couldn’t, and now some were getting Mil-Std-1760 compliant stores management for EPWs.
The issue of “fleets within fleets” needed addressing if Harrier was really going to operate in the Joint Force concept from land and at sea, and be able to move aircraft between squadrons at home and abroad.
The GR.9s brought them to a standard where they could do all those things, and were all the same in terms of avionics. The only real persisting difference was engines on the 9 vs 9A - which was a cop out because originally they were all meant to get Mk.107s and there would be no GR.9A.
Some of the more boring improvements were a new Successor IFF system (SIFF), a very advanced terrain-referencing system that provided capabilities for ground proximity warning, navigation and weapon delivery, and the ability to use the Rangeless Airborne Instrumentation Debriefing System (a digital ACMI pod - RAIDS is the all-white one that everybody confuses for ASRAAM in photos) for training.
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What is the GR.3A? I can’t find any info on it
I am just as confused lol. maybe he meant Gr.7A
Probably meaning Jaguar GR3A
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ahh ok I was looking at the Harrier Gr.3A
Yeah, sorry the Jaaaaaaag
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I feel like we are going too see the GR9A in 2 years from now 😪😪
Would it really even play all that different from a Gr.7 without ASRAAM
In Sim with HMD new engine, Jammers, 6X missile and spectral flairs it would