Badger SV

So if I’m reading this right, the EMAK 30’s API round is either an APC or an APCBC round, which would be a huge increase in penetration over regular AP. Which begs the question, is it just an APC round, or is it an APCBC round?

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It’s supposed to really only have 30mm APFSDS and SAP (as far as I know the SAP is more like APC but it is quite hard to find any info)

I hate the idea of subtrees, so hopefully in 2025 this gets added to a SA tree. There are many Boxer type varients that would better suit the tree, I see no need of adding this to the UK - yet I would love to see this in game

Firstly there will likely be no SA tree, it may be possible with copy paste but it was added as a sub and Gaijin have never turned a sub into a tree.

Secondly the devs have stated no new trees will be coming in 2025 only subs and filler. And if the leaks mean anything the next tree will probably be Visegrad (Eastern European nations).

Thirdly (this may be misunderstanding what you are saying) badger is based in the Patria chassis not the boxer

1 - Never say never with the snail lol.
2 - Never listen to a ““leak””.
3 - I meant that the UK Boxer Prototypes with a 30/35/40mm, near idential to this “Boxer SV” in gameplay (in War Thunder), are much better suited to the tree and should be added instead of this. This vehicle is more suited to an independent South African tree, which has more than enough vehicles to fill. I would love to see the “Badger SV” in War Thunder, just not in the UK tree.

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Well the “no new trees in 2025” is from BvvD
And the leaker for Visegrad is pretty reliable.

And you could add the Badger to the South African line and hence still have the space for more ifvs in the 3rd line

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I understand, but why not produce a whole new tree with just SA in it?

There are, and always have been, plenty of UK vehicles to fill the TT without SA. Hence why, I’m saying remove all SA vehicles from the UK tree and create a new one.

  1. It’s difficult to make this change, people may have purchased RSA vehicles to grind the UK tree, raises questions about sub trees as a whole in general.

  2. It exacerbates the copy paste issue further which people arguably have a greater issue with.

  3. More difficulties for the matchmaker as I can’t imagine that many players.

  4. See some of Smin’s comments on various debates as why Indian particularly soviet vehicles were added to Britain.

  5. This is more of an issue with sub trees in general see
    Subtree Rework - Nation Folders

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Well done mate

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Seeing as this forum will be closed soon because the SV is coming soon. Are there any Badger prototypes that used the LCT 30 turret but had ZT3 launchers on it, like on the AV8 Gempita?

Does anyone have any more info on the gun? The Denel brochure for the AMICT says it uses the EMAK 30 that has a fire rate of 180-200 rpm, but every other secondary source says that the GI-30 has a fire rate of 115 rpm or even 60 rpm. Is the EMAK 30 and the GI-30 even the same weapon?

Leafing further through secondary sources, it appears that only single shot and three round burst modes are mentioned. Please don’t tell me this thing doesn’t have full auto. There’s nothing more ridiculous than a large calibre, vehicle mounted M16A2.

no badger but the turret was put on a rooikat

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I know about it being tested on the Rooikat but the adapter is so fugly

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Already +1 this but congrats on getting it in game

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I hope the anti-tank variant comes too this update, like how we got the Wiesel’s altogether.

Badger MV

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Too much work, cant fire on the move smh

I’d say otherwise. Most of the assets are in-game now. It would be easy.
Even lacking the ability to fire on the move, it would be a fine tank destroyer with similar capability in game-style to the AFT09. 4x powerful ATGM’s that can destroy most vehicles, it would be a beneficial add.
It may not be for everyone but I sure as hell want to see it lol.

I’m pretty sure it can. I’ve seen some saying that it has the advantage of accurately firing on the move, which the Ratel ZT3 is said not to be able to do

Well if you can prove it all too ya… good knows people tried for the zt3

I probably won’t find it again. I was all over SPJ and other places. But proving the EMAK 30 is a downsized EMAK 35 is pretty easy, all I need is a day, 23 hours to be lazy and procrastinate, 1 hour to find enough evidence