Bad players in warthunder TopTier

I’m literally abandoning Warthunder, it’s impossible to play with such bad players, every match has 10 players who die 2/3 times and don’t kill any enemies, they’re like bots, ghosts, my theory is that they’re bots that Gaijin puts in to complete the match, because whoever in their right mind dies three times and doesn’t kill any enemies, IMPOSSIBLE TO PLAY.

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I feel you. I’ve legitimately had a game last 2 minutes in Advance to the Rhine at top tier because of the friendly Click-Bait players.

War Thunder is a team game and it’s impossible to do well if you don’t have a team.

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“Bad players” deserve to play all parts of the game, just as “good players” do.

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The whole point of the tech tree system is (supposed) to prevent bad players from playing at top tier.

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No. The “whole point” of the tech tree system is to be a progression system, ensuring player engagement and monetization.

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It’s not to prevent them, but hope that they learn something on the way.

Whilst everyone tells them that things work the way they are showing, they try replicate that, fail, and can’t see why they’re failing, so they keep repeating the same method.

Because they seen that youtuber do it like this, and it worked.

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As you progress, you get better. You might say that just because you progress doesn’t make you magically better, but compare the average skill level of a player at top tier before and after the Click-Bait was released.

Knowledge on how to play the game comes from time spent in it mostly, and not just wishing yourself to get better or something. It’s supposed to prevent them because they’re supposed to play enough at high tier to unlock higher tier vehicles.

I’m fine with 10.0/10.3 premiums, because they aren’t top tier and don’t see top tier games, but the 11.3 premiums are currently ruining the game. I just want one tier in the game where you don’t have to worry about premium spam and can play against similarly skilled players.

As it is, most games end in the enemy or your spawn within 5 minutes at top tier.

After spending hundreds of hours grinding to top tier for a single country, I have the right to actually want to have fun while playing that top tier tank I spent so long unlocking.

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Tell that to those who plead for information, then get passed on to youtube and various tutorials about how to play…

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Bye bye :)

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You’ll see this all the way down to 1.0. A lot of games turn into steamrolls with one team or another in the other’s spawn in about 5 minutes. Its very rare that any game is a good competitive slugfest that goes total game duration.

The reason of course is unequal player skill levels. You have high level players clubbing newbs in low tiers and you have wallet warriors infesting high tiers.
Player performance indexing by the MM will fix this.

People of all skill levels being at top-tier predates that one particular premium by years.

 

There is no meaningful “skill”/“learning” difference between reaching 10.3 and reaching 11.3. This is nothing but a very transparent way of complaining about the specific corner of the game you happen to be playing.

 

lol

But really, no, this is a multiplayer(!) video game. You do not have the “right” to control how other players choose to play the game.

And if these “low skill” players are so common that you feel the need to complain about them, then there are just as many on the other team for you to get some easy kills.

 

It’s up to you and you alone to have the right perspective that allows you to have fun. This is a personal problem; others are not responsible for your happiness.

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If by top tier you mean 10.0/10.3, sure. Do you even play top tier right now?

Yes there is. If you want to get to top tier, but are forced to play a 10.3 tank, you will have to grind the whole tech tree to get to top tier. Meanwhile now you can just buy a top tier tank at level 1.

People do not “choose” to be bad at the game. There is a difference between personal strategy and skill.

Did you read what I wrote? Matches where you stomp the enemy team after 5 minutes aren’t fun either.

The “but players on both teams are bad” idea also fails to consider the fact that most games aren’t mixed battles and Click-Bait players end up on only one team or the other.

Damn, Uranium with the cope takes again. You really are searching the threads of it.

The only thing I can say is lock Pemiums to Tiers that you unlock with lvls. 0-10 Tier I+2 Premiums, 20-30 Tier 3 Premiums, 30-40 Tier 4 Premiums etc. (or maybe different levels but by god pls no more lvl 8 high-tier premiums…

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They’re not wrong in principle on this point. Every time Gaijin introduces a new “pack” vehicle and aggressively markets it, you get a flood of new players at whatever BR it happens to be at. Top tier just sells better and the player population is much smaller to its effect is magnified.

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You have a win rate of 44% worse than mine and I play on console.So who is the terrible player?

This forum always has posts from long term veterans with 25000 games saying goodbye to this game and the forum laugh at them when they go.Then we have posts like yours and a forum full of ODL complaints.

Even leading content creators on Youtube have stated they find Top tier unplayable or simply no fun especially USA.

So the old players are going and the WT community are still in denial over it.

That is just tough.Top tier vets once liked this game now they don’t and they are going only to replaced by Whales buying in. You have tiny teams because the players are not there.

Try and suggest this game is dying and see how hammered you get by the Gaijin butt kissing posse all telling you nothing has changed.

Gaijin wont change anything (apart form good maps) and calling for change is frowned upon heavily on this forum.So suck it up or leave like all the other good players did.

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W/R is irrelevant, K/D more so indicates player skill. Idk about this guy because I don’t have access to my PlayStation right now lol

I think you are forgetting about how much the Leopard 2PL affected Germa top tier for a while.

I would agree but WR is what everybody seems to be throwing at each other.
If the OP can’t win a game with a bunch of losers then his WR will plummet which is why it seems silly to go to stats.

All boils down to defining a dying game.So numbers are the same allegedly but all the good guys left top tier and were replaced by God knows what so is the game collapsing or not?

Back to numbers again ,the OP only has 4310 games so what does that tell you?

How many times do we get a post that some player has had enough and are quitting. You look at their profile and its 25000-30000 games.

Is that a laughing matter? We all do mock them though don’t we but who has the last laugh really?

We are losing top players here or experienced people at least.You think the game wont take any kind of hit as a result?

People who enjoy the game.

Here he is .A person so utterly pretentious in all he posts yet can’t grasp a simple concept.You do make my day old chap.A man consumed by the exuberance of his own verbosity indeed.

Good players leave the game , game dies at it’s most difficult level, Bleeding Uranium doesn’t get it but let us all praise his intellect any way…actually …let’s not : )

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