I know… I made a masterpiece
Armament loads - 1965
Scale wind tunnel model with rocket pods
Mock up bombs in the bay.
Bombs also included parachute retarded bombs and AST.1197 (Would later be developed into the BL755)
Source: TSR2: Britan’s Lost Bomber
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Are the nuclear bombs also coming with the TSR.2
any information on its ability to carry red tops?
Still wouldnt pen soviet ERA :P
Not that I can see, though I dont have all the pages of this book. It certainly wasn’t on the table it seems at the time of cancellation.
According to the book, conventional strike was considered a tertiary role of the aircraft; and Air Staff resisted any development of dedicated conventional weapon systems for the TSR-2. Thus they wanted only off the shelf weapon conventional weapons.
For other weapon systems though and their development; rockets seemed to be 2 inch rockets in 37 tube pods, or RP-3’s. Rocket pods would also be lowered from within the bomb bay, this was deemed too complex and costly. It was then suggested a dedicated rocket pack be created for the TSR-2’s bay. By 1959 the requirement for RP-3’s was pending removal, and was indeed removed by 1960. Standard 2 inch rocket pods were deemed the way to go and any planned rocket system using up the bay had been discarded.
Besides the aforementioned parachute retarded bombs, and the cluster bomb, the original requirement for the TSR-2 was to at least carry 4, then later 6 1000 lb conventional bombs. Due to the nature of the lower altitude high speed strike mission, a study for a new low drag bomb was conducted. However this did not progress further due to the desire for off-the-shelf weapon systems. Additionally, it was deemed the Martel wing pylons were strong enough to support four bombs each on ejector racks, this was also not pursued any further.
AS.30’s on TSR-2 wind tunnel model
Both AGM-12 Bullpups and AS.30’s were considered for the TSR-2, but the higher than expected implementation costs, carriage limitations, existing stocks of missiles having a shelf-life that was anticipated to expire by the time the TSR-2 entered service, and the fact both weapon systems were deemed to be interim until more advanced missiles became available led to both weapons being cut from development by 1963.
Tychon
The Tychon missile was also considered for the TSR-2, with a carriage of four missiles. But this system lost out to the Martel.
GOR.339 in 1957 did bring up the possibility of napalm weapon delivery, BAC was authorized to develop a napalm carriage as late as March 1965.
Other weapons that caught the interest of the TSR-2 program was Hawkeye II, CBU-75 Sadeye, Mk 116 Weteye, and AGM-62 Walleye, though no further development was carried out.
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where did this come from then?
Those are not AAMs. Those are planes firecrackers on a childs plane
Honestly, and btw, apologies for resurrecting this thread.
Depending on the BR, you would want to actually use these planes (I read your thread regarding the Vulcan) as nuclear bombers as well, don’t you think, say for higher BRs, especially now that we’re given a much more playable GBADS with the recent update.
I’d be looking everywhere in the sky trying to locate where that Howling is coming from.
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Considering we have the Jaguar and Typhoons ingame, the TSR.2 perfectly fits a 10.0-11.0 br bracket, with great speed similar to the F-111’s.
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Are there any good cockpit photos of the TSR.2?
There is now a proper TSR.2 suggestion with a very detailed history section by @AVROVULCANXH558
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check on Vautour IIB then : no defence already 9.0.
the TSR can’t be any lower than 10.0 (realistically speaking) - even more if the TSR recieve the countermeasure pods.
(a bit late maybe,… i just saw that it was nearly a year ago)
Or check on the F-117 and Buc S1 at 8.7. Or canberra B-57 at 8.3 for unarmed aricraft.
It depends on CMs.
No CMs… Then 9.3 is fine as it would be weaker than the Jag GR1 at 9.7 with Aim-9Gs and Chaff.
Depedning on the CMs… Could be 10.0. But wouldnt be any higher than that. Its an F-111A with no gun or Aim-9s.
I would normally not agree, but the yack 28 has been moved to 9.0 as well as the su 7 so honestly have no reason to say no. Mach 1.25 would make it basically untouchable on the deck against anything but an F-104, which is why i think putting it at 9.3 is a little iffy. Although, the ability to actually reach a base fist before the hoard of mig 21s and mig 23s base bombing would be fantastic.
I forgot those moved down.
The su 7 is seal clubbing 8.0 - 9.0 games so im a little miffed they moved it down… I think due to the fact the TSR.2 doesn’t get guns it should be low, but depending on countermeasures and martels (gaijin will move it up in br no matter what we want, just look at the gr.1a, S.2B and tonka gr.1). With it all i see it being 9.7, 10.0 but i dont think itll struggle all that much at those bs, it would just be alot more fun being at a lower br.