B-52 Countermeasures vs Tu-95 Countermeasures

Why don’t you think so? B-52H’s payload is 7000kg heavier than Tu-95M’s max, I could understand maybe the argument of the fact Tu-95M having more turrets but that’s something that quite literally cannot be fixed with B-52H.

Read the big post man, I explained why it was better to have 1 single big bomb than multiple smaller ones. Also, I explained both had +/- the same speed. I also said being 8.3 is way more advantageous than being 8.7 for a bomber.

Plus, apparently the tu-95m has better turrets too ? Another argument in favor of the bias, lol.

No PVP game is “balanced” there will always be better things than others, and for a game like WT that’s extremely apparent, you can only make it “so balanced” to a point before you start having everyone have the same thing with no uniqueness and complete uniformity.

What I’m saying is not that it SHOULDN’T be balanced, but that simply expecting everyone to be equals at every aspect is not feasible.

If it is considered a PvP game, it should be balanced equally between all players.

Arranging e-sports taking in consideration how overdominant Russia currently is, with the BMPT and all, is something I cannot understand.

All the other PvP games I played were either equally balanced, or very much balanced. WT is the absolute opposit. And you just have to play 30 10.7 GRB games against Russia to notice it.

I skimmed them, they are again completely off the topic of this thread

no it’s actually not, as blast radius doesn’t increases on a linear scale, so to double the kill radius of the 4000lb bomb with ~2000kg of TNT you need to increase the explosive payload to 8000kg, that’s why the destruction radius of the 4000lb is only 9m less then the 9000kg with double the explosive mass.
But this has nothing to do with the OP so I am not going to continue arguing it here.

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It’s almost as if I was only interested in pointing out something that was objectively wrong rather than trying to contradict everything you say for the sake of it. You can have whatever opinions you want, but saying stuff that is objectively incorrect doesn’t help anyone.

The nature of the UTAS sight has been discussed to death in other threads and this isn’t the place to go through it all again, however you have a logic fallacy there. Take another example: the UK has never developed a domestic IR guided MANPAD despite basically everyone else having them. That’s not because Britain can’t make one, our doctrine just prefers SACLOS guidance over IR guidance for MANPADS. Just because most nations have something does not mean that all nations do.

Now getting back on topic to the B-52 and Tu-95: rather than just whining about Russian bias how about you lay out a clear and concise manner how you propose fixing this supposed problem. Or just accept that different aircraft have different pros and cons?

And “just make up a completely fake big bomb to give the US” is not a valid response.

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apparently more valid than me suggesting he actually go make a suggestion for the BLU-82 “Daisy Cutter” an actual massive USA bomb with 6000kg of explosive filler (not sure of the TNT equivalent)… just demand fake bomb.

what a joke of a thread
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Lol no!! This isn’t Counter-Strike or some other game.
It’s ridiculous to try and balance everything in a game that features over 2,000 vehicles. Especially since, in reality, no two countries coordinate to develop balanced equipment simultaneously.

The whole point is to produce better equipment than the competition. In short, the ecosystem of war has absolutely NOTHING TO DO with balancing.

And even if it’s just a video game, it should at least be somewhat believable.

Nothing is more annoying than an ultra-balanced game where everything is perfectly smooth so as not to offend anyone.

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this russian bias guy is either baiting or just permanently stuck in a echo chamber
better to ignore

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same reason why B52 cant use the turret with 3rd person view xD
Bcoz gaijin dropped a raw plane to us

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The whole point is to produce better equipment than the competition.

You understand this is precisely this way worldwide nations “autobalance” themselves throughout the years ?

I’m not saying every nation should have the exact same armor shell and jets, I’m just saying Russia winning 80% of top tier GRB games isn’t normal, nor balanced.

So yeah, WT should be balanced.

Otherwise, you’re just doomed to loose everytime, if you’re in the opposit of what should be the META nation. And loosing everytime in a PvP game, is not fun.

Lol.

I’m not going to continue talking to someone who changes their words depending on the angle they want, lol

Walk into B-52 countermeasure bug thread.

Seeing someone complains GRB USA 10.7
Peak War Thunder Forum Moment, ngl.

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(Sorry not sorry light mode users, you did this to yourselves 🤣 )

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The thread has nothing to do with GRB or IRST / KH-38s & whatever else is listed. Please stick to the title of the topic in general or go to the respective threads if you want to discuss other things.

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Just as an aside, the B-52 is still missing it’s chaff rockets.

Imo the biggest issue with the B-52 is the fact that its a H while just functionally being a D with a upgraded tail gun, there are a myriad of weapons and equipment a pre-1991 H should have and it does not.

Same deal, the TU-95M should in theory be able to outright just replace it’s 23mm turret ammo with flares or chaff rounds, which is how the flares were handled in the first place and why they are small caliber flares.

Both aircraft won’t be relevant at all though in either mode, they exist as memes and thats about it.

At the same time, if they are going to be relegated to being memes, I really don’t understand why both aircraft cant just be pushed to their actual as designed extremes, EG where is the GAM-67, AGM-69 or Bloodhound for the B-52, or the myriad of unique defensive systems that existed through it’s lifespan, the chaff rockets being one of them. Or in the case of the TU-95, why cant we fully replace the 23mm ammo with flares or chaff rounds, why cant we have a conversion kit that tweaks it to a M55, which would allow it to use similar early guided weapons like the B-52H but at the cost of being unable to run generic bombs.

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My thought process is that currently the devs are a bit scared to the AGMs both planes can carry and guided bombs not because they will be OP but rather too large seeing that they both will come to the regular game without their ECM so in order to keep them at a lower BR they are giving them regular bombs.

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Maybe they’ll give both of them more stuff once ECM is added in full in a future major update which would allow both to get ECM and be put at a higher BR with better munitions and what not.

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One (1) 9000kilogram bomb where the explosive filler is half of the weight of the bomb, is weaker than the WW2 era FAB-5000
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Twenty-one (21) 2000lb bombs that are basically enough to wipe an entire map.

Look at the damage to bases that each bomber’s loadout can do and come back and say it’s Russian bias.

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you know you can use ccrp and drop all of your bombs at once?

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Why are people still responding to it…