Avoiding Hypocrisy and the Double Standard - US Abrams to the Chinese Tech Tree

I’m sorry that is the case, its because the scale at which this is occuring in china is very very big. You mightve not heard about it, but its really pissing people back there off. Gaijin has a history of not listening until they cannont pretend its fine anymore

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Comparing Taiwan → china with
Israel → germany??
What?

I’m genuinely baffled, what could you POSSIBLY be referring to there

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Okay, hold on there buddy

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You tell me, those are your words mate

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Gaijin has a history of not listening until they cannot pretend its fine anymore

That is a problem, but Gaijin is only making more problems with this addition

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best thing they SHOULD do is add VT4 to japan and abrams to China at the same time

simple solution. Add VT-4 to Japan and add Taiwan ROC flag to China to have consistent standards ofc.

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Easier said than done unfortunately, they’ve delayed and tiptoed around this issue for months

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yes but now they have the chance to do it
chinese people complained since they had some sort of celebration festival etc

should be over by now tho

just add VT4 to japan and the Abrams to china at the same time, in the same update

This is not the argument you believe it to be. Thailand bought the vehicle. Gaijin decided to add Thailand to Japan as a sub-tree. Thailand uses the VT4, so it should be in their line-up. Which is in the Japan’s tree. Sure, the argument here could have been better defined in terms of sub-tree versus main tree. That’s fair. But saying Japan shouldn’t get it because its Japan and Japan and China have blood then that is an entirely separate issue. However, you justify the denial to China because there is no RoC flag you can select and China as a main tree and the United States have bad blood.

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Completely wrong. The M1A2T imo should not be added because there’s the same backlash as the VT-4 in Thai service. Both tanks are used by minor nations inside tech trees that are the complete opposite.

It’s a double standard: chinese players gets mad that their own vehicle goes into another subtree,but they’re completely fine when they get a vehicle from a country their enemies with?

I dearly miss the time when chinese players had their own server

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Well the model and camo exist, it’s only a matter of convincing gaijin

First of all, the comparison is saying how ridiculous it all is in the sense why chinese players hate it.

Say in a hypothetical alternate world, where Germany didn’t apologize properlly for their crimes against humanity, and the jewish community, and theyve just kinda been pretending its not a thing. Add lets say, in that world, hypothetically, gaijin adds the isreal export tank, whichever you think makes sense, that was NEVER exported to germany specifically, to germany. How pissed do you think isreal will be? And do you think thats something Gaijin should do? If that answer is no. Then the situation for this isnt different.

China, ROC Taiwan is ROC, republic of china. Before the CPC came into power and recognized in 80s they were the legitimate government of China. They were the first to fight against the japanese fascists back in the 30s. If you look up chat gpt “what artrocities has japan comitted to china” you have an idea of what it is, but in short, its worse than the holocaust in terms of the pure numbers, I’m not going to compare how horrible it is which is a mistake i made first time around. Japan has a very different attitude towards the war than germany was. Theyre more about how theyve suffered than about what theyve done wrong. Look the same up with chat gpt.

Its understandable why the chiense community is deeply offended. And I know this will get deleted, but I’m trying to get the other side. And I find it impossible to see why there is backlash if I dont get into it.

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past is past lmao
if you cant move on then sucks to be you i guess

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Lol easy to say if youre not involved.

Germany gets the slip because its been apologizing for like ever after the war.

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I think this would be the most fair solution in my personal opinion. You should be able to select the ROC flag just like you can the Iranian over the US flag despite those nations not being on friendly terms. Japan’s sub-tree Thailand gets their MBT, and the Taiwanese player base gets their MBT. While I personally would not like to see a US tank go to a hostile nation of the nation it is intended to go to, that is politics and not the point of the issue.

My country started 2 world wars
has been beaten down 2 times and gang banged by the entire world and now everything is chill

dont tell me that china who had a bit of beef with japan cant do the same

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Idk what point you’re trying to make, but it sounds fairly politically dubious and generally strange.

If you’re comparing anything japan did in manchuria to the holocaust then I’d have to politely decline from that topic, as it is a dead end and will most likely spark emotional or racist mudflinging

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The other is the different in history.

VT4: never exported nor captured nor operated by japan

M1A2T: Exported to China, the republic of. (and like, 10 different vehicles ROC currently has)

Its fundamentally not the same

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I’m not going on a crusade lol. I’m saying that theres a reason to be pissed.

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