Avoiding Hypocrisy and the Double Standard - US Abrams to the Chinese Tech Tree

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Them giving China an M1A2 is just them shoving copy/paste into a nation than putting any effort into fixing it. It’s the lazy way and it doesn’t help the tree.

Adding this just means they ignore fixing domestic vehicles for longer than they already have.

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They just need to add the VT4 already. Now would’ve been a perfect opportunity.

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Opposing M1A2T to China would be hypocrisy and double standards.

Supporting it is supporting consistent standards.

@Bioticas2817-live
Iran isn’t USA.

@Ion_492
M1A2T isn’t in any other tech tree in War Thunder, it isn’t copy-paste.

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Iran doesn’t operate any J-10s what?

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They aren’t even adding the ROC flag. Get real, they will go deaf ears on this unless there’s some concentrated effort.

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Well your source is either dodgy youtube channels or a dream, because Iran hasn’t been offered, nor had any J-10s delivered

I’d love to see the Thai VT-4, but it was never confirmed nor denied to be coming to WT by Gaijin officially (as far as I’m aware).

But this update would’ve been a very good time to add it!

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It cannot be acceptable for one portion of the player base to pressure Gaijin to not add their nation’s MBT to another nation and have Gaijin follow through while not allowing anyone else to do so is the issue or to flat out dismiss it. Which has been the case.

And the M1A2T is just an M1A2 designated for Taiwan. They are basically the same vehicle or “copy and paste” in War Thunder terms. Much like the M1A1 AIM is just an M1A1 designated for Australia. But that could potentially be a solution to the issue here. Gaijin could add the M1A1T to the US tree as an event or premium and that would not involve them adding the VT4.

Not saying it is the best solution but it would be a solution.

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Such a thing has not occurred.
Gaijin’s response was zero denial of Thai VT-4.
And no, M1A2T is an export [no DU] Abrams SEP3 modified by request of China.

And no, China is a tech tree in War Thunder.
Chinese vehicles should not enter the United States tech tree. EVER!
China is a tech tree already.

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AH well, I’d still be fine with it if the US got something

Agree to disagree.

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I meant pertaining to China

Literally not a single possibility besides pakistani block 52

Then I have to disagree with the addition

??? No one made this much of a fuss when the F-5E or F-16MLU was added, why now?

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Avoiding hypocracy is to stop pretending the vt4 is the same situation with the m1a2t. While japan tech tree has never operated the vt4, m1a2t is a leigitmate export vehicle that is sold to China. Its not any different compared to say, strv122, l2a7hu, or f15j. If there is, then its the fact its sold to the ROC, which is the flag it sits under.

You can also ask this to yourself, should the isreal tree, or any isreal export vehicles be attached to german tree as a sub tree? Especially when theres no historical backing? If the answer is no, then the same reason would apply to vt4. The situation would be different if they had. Gaijin had done that to themselves with the t62 china aquired over the sino soviet split and border confrontations. But then again, japan never operated vt4 so this is just coming out their asses. Having absolutely nothing to do with historical accuracy unlike the m1a2t.

If you pretend its the same, the non-double standard way is to remove all the vehicles that was exported.

Stop hiding behind logic and just admit you don’t like China tech tree getting what they should. Or realise vt4 is literally gaijin making a poor choice because they don’t understand the historical context.

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The hypocrisy brought attention to it, and I’ve seen some people complain about the F16 copy and paste

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What? There isn’t a single german tank/plane/heli in the entire tree, tf is that analogy

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