Ive beaten my friends in 1v1 dogfights in the GR7 when they are in MIG29s on one circle fights a few times and don’t fear F16s in ARB either. I take it to top tier while I’m grinding for the gripen as a plane with a lot of performance at low altitude and four 9Ms can mess really catch people off guard
not really much of an upgrade for war thunder gameplay beyond two more 9Ls and giving it 9M would throw it so high in BR its unplayable so I’m glad its only 11.3, when it should be 11.0 max
I once nearly won a 1v3 vs Mig-29s in the Gr7 (got 2, last guy got me, but I would have survived if we had MAWS back then as he snuck up on me )
And did rather humiliate some Su-27s and Mig-29s in a nearly stock Sea Harrier FA2 right at the start of the last update. (2 Maneuver kills + 1x Aim-9L kill, they tried to turn fight me at 150kts with me on 30% nozzle and flaps :D )
They are great aircraft, but need some TLC. Just miss playing the Harrier Gr7 in Sim. When it got Aim-9Ms it was BRed into oblivion. No radar just sucks at a BR higher than the Tornado F3.
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RWR upgrade would be nice, just for situational awarness and yeah, should never get them, but Flame did submit a report just for the fun of it :D
11.0 is where it belongs
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Honestly as I don’t really play sim I never use radars unless its to slave my IR missiles lock or for AMRAAMs. Ive found it to be more effective to turn radar off to not ping RWS and sneak up on unsuspecting players, the GR7 means I cant slave my missiles for an easier lock but saves me turning it off. honestly it does fine at 12.3 as long as you are a kind of ok pilot
11.0 for the FRS1 and 11.7 for the AV8B na sounds about right
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Yeah… Id just go 11.7 or 12.0 for Sim. That would be more playable. You’d defo enjoy the Gr9A with 6x Aim-9M and HMS and a better engine :P
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Ive had this exact discussion in the discord server I squad up in, my only complaint about the GR7 is that the GR7a got the better engine, why cant they just add a letter and give me a less overheating engine. having two more sidewinders to smack people with would make me look like doomguy with a BFG
true however the issue is getting enough speed to lob it from a safe distance. The Av8 has the speed and the armament to be extremely good at 11.3, I just don’t think I can say the same for the A10
man, balancing the a10c is gonna be a night mare. Hopefully it gets more armaments. What I really want a the triple launcher pylon that can fire the laser mavs
the 6x Aim-9 and 6x AGM-65 is actually something all 3 (Gr5, Gr7 and Gr9) should have. Just figured it would be best to apply it to the Gr9A so the Gr7 doesnt get another BR bump
Gr7A upgrade would be good though
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do you have proof of this. I may do a little bug report to make my favourite jet a little more angry
Gunjob already has internal reports in for both I think. but take a photo of an AGM-65 on the outer pylon
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Same role, different playstyle. The A-10C excels at going low and slow, using terrain to its advantage while the AV-8B excels at being in space and throwing LGBs and AGMs down at tanks while prioritizing SPAA
When comparing these two as of now, the BR placements are indeed rather silly for ground. I do not believe the AV-8B NA will remain 11.3 for GRB, maybe 11.7 as it has a flexible enough FM and good enough amount and quality ordnance together with a really good TGP. As it stands for a 11.3 CAS plane, it’s incredibly efficient really imo.
I think the A-10C can be alright at where it is now. Its slow speed and low speed handling can make for an interesting playstyle, more utilizing terrain to hide between and being able to quickly pop up and back down while firing off mavericks. A lot of the laser weapons, I think, won’t be very useful on the A-10C, apart from maybe APKWS as they might be fast enough and in large enough number to be somewhat useful, I mean you have pylons free anyway. Though I wouldn’t be completely opposed to this thing becoming 11.3 too, as that is one gap the US still has for a tech tree CAS plane with TGP, otherwise such a role would be locked behind a paywall, which would suck.
I’m talking in the sense of CAS, the way those jets are meant to be played.
A-10C already has 9Ms, but they are a tier 4 modification, so you are stuck with 9Ls for a decent chunk of the grind.
Vark does in fact have a Vulcan, you just need to sacrifice the targeting pod to use it, which you can feasibly do if you take the TV guided GBUs over the LGBs (frankly this is better considering top tier SPAA).
Neither the Vark nor the A10 are “meant” for Air RB, and I never said they were. The Harrier II isn’t ideal for Air either, but it has more viable options. My point was, as I stated previously, both the F-111F and the AV-8B+ can do the A-10C’s job but better, while being at the same or lower BR. They all have, for the most part, very similar bomb and missile options, albeit with a few exceptions.
vulcan isnt a gau 8 like on the A10, avenger is the gau 8 and its considerably bigger
9L is still very good, more than enough for the grind to the rank 4 mods.
different playstyles, A10 and vark are for multiple bases, the vark isn’t fast when fully laden either as it cant swoop its wings when carrying on all hardpoints
different playstyles, still just as valuable. the harrier is just the faster to action option
For the third time
Playing as a CAS aircraft, in Ground RB
“9L is still very good” yeah sure at 10.3 where the A-10A’s are, but at 12.0, 2x 9Ls on a platform that barely reaches 650 kph in a straight line? Yeeaaaahhh, don’t think so.
“Vark isn’t fast when fully laden” yeah still faster than the A-10 lmao
You are missing my entire point I made in the first place, the A-10C is higher in BR/ same BR as two vehicles who, IN A CLOSE AIR SUPPORT ROLE, are objectively better in every single regard
Your 9Ls are defensive on the A10 not offensive. you’re playing it wrong
lol
Well it looks like their removed the 10 JDAM loadout and only gave it 4 for the harriers. Meanwhile the SU24, gets 7 GNSS bombs (3x explosive btw), supersonic and is at 11.3. What is their reasoning for this?
Playing the harrier at 12.0 (11.3 if you count NA) is already difficult. Because of your slow speed, you can’t use mavericks or bombs at far ranges, which makes you have to play to a medium or short range. The JDAM would’ve been perfect because it fits in with the pop up and pop down play style.
A .3 br higher, you get the JF-17 which can carry 4 glided GNSS bombs, supersonic (3x high explosive)
I really don’t understand their reasoning for doing this, unless it’s temporary.