AV-8B NA vs A10C

I’m questioning the viability of bringing out the A-10C when the AV-8B NA is arguably better. In the past, the A-10A was competitive at 10.3/7 due to the lack of highly effective SPAAGs and the exceptional performance of the AGM-65D. However, at top tier, where speed is crucial, I don’t think the A-10C will be competitive.

The A-10C does have a MAW (Missile Approach Warning system), which is beneficial when facing Pantsirs and IR missiles. But is it worth sacrificing its other capabilities?

In terms of ordnance, the only viable options are those with thrusters. Momentum-based ordnance, such as bombs, requires a high speed to launch safely. For thruster-equipped ordnance, the A-10C has APKWS, laser-guided Mavericks, and IR-guided Mavericks. However, unless you’re willing to significantly increase the SP cost, you’re limited to only two laser-guided Mavericks, and the APKWS is somewhat useless.

In contrast, the AV-8B NA offers more flexibility, with the option to carry four laser-guided Mavericks or ten JDAMs. This makes the AV-8B NA a more appealing choice.

**used ai to better flow and clarify of what I’m saying

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the AV8 doesnt have maw? its essentially a copy paste of the British harrier GR7 but without AIM9-Ms, id be surprised if the American version didn’t have MAWs.

And yes the harrier is more versatile than a warthog, its one of the most versatile planes ever made, its payload is just much smaller than then A10

But 12.0 for the A-10C just seems a bit too high, especially when the AV-8B + exists, and can do everything the A-10 can do but better at the EXACT same BR.

And the F-111F (for now) is 11.7, lower than the A-10 in GRB. Which, again, the F-111F can do the A-10’s job but better, and now at a lower BR.

A-10C will also get JDAMs at some point. Even with slow speed, they can be lobbed a long way much easier than LGBs and can be fored entirely from cover behind mountains

Honestly the a 10c should be 11.0 or 11.3 anything higher would be unfit for the aircraft. Either that or just a round of ground rb decompression

The MAWS was a British addition, so the AV-8B doesn’t have it.

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Which is probaby why its premium and thus you have to pay for it

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The A10c is getting aim 9M isnt it? and JDAMs will probably come in the future, either way the A10 isn’t meant to be used in ARB as its free food for everyone.

the vark doesn’t have a gau 8. and isn’t as agile as a warthog

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im honestly surprised, america really went overkill on some Harrier modifications yet that one was skipped?

either that or suffer britain for the same plane with better defensive capabilites

Maybe…

640 BOL + 60 BOL vs 180 CMs actually is a smaller gap that in actaully sounds
MAWS doesnt work correctly as its the bad one from the F-111A

When you consider the AV-8B NA 11.3. Any minor differences are totally mitigated.

Im very much tempted to get this AV-8 just to stick a Harrier Gr7 skin on it so that I have a Harrier II at a playable BR.

wait its going to be 11.3? I know America pilots suck and premium kids will wreck its performance stats but still WTF
a Harrier ii has no right to be at the same BR as a Falklands war Harrier frs1, its engine is better and it can turn harder than an FRS1 even when its VIFFing its unfair as hell
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Yep… I guess Brits are just too good

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Technically the SQV is the post-falklands Phase 1 upgrade.

Which is why it has the 4x Aim-9L but should also have a much improved RWR and eventually even got Aim-9M

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Ive beaten my friends in 1v1 dogfights in the GR7 when they are in MIG29s on one circle fights a few times and don’t fear F16s in ARB either. I take it to top tier while I’m grinding for the gripen as a plane with a lot of performance at low altitude and four 9Ms can mess really catch people off guard

not really much of an upgrade for war thunder gameplay beyond two more 9Ls and giving it 9M would throw it so high in BR its unplayable so I’m glad its only 11.3, when it should be 11.0 max

I once nearly won a 1v3 vs Mig-29s in the Gr7 (got 2, last guy got me, but I would have survived if we had MAWS back then as he snuck up on me )

And did rather humiliate some Su-27s and Mig-29s in a nearly stock Sea Harrier FA2 right at the start of the last update. (2 Maneuver kills + 1x Aim-9L kill, they tried to turn fight me at 150kts with me on 30% nozzle and flaps :D )

They are great aircraft, but need some TLC. Just miss playing the Harrier Gr7 in Sim. When it got Aim-9Ms it was BRed into oblivion. No radar just sucks at a BR higher than the Tornado F3.

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RWR upgrade would be nice, just for situational awarness and yeah, should never get them, but Flame did submit a report just for the fun of it :D

11.0 is where it belongs

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Honestly as I don’t really play sim I never use radars unless its to slave my IR missiles lock or for AMRAAMs. Ive found it to be more effective to turn radar off to not ping RWS and sneak up on unsuspecting players, the GR7 means I cant slave my missiles for an easier lock but saves me turning it off. honestly it does fine at 12.3 as long as you are a kind of ok pilot

11.0 for the FRS1 and 11.7 for the AV8B na sounds about right

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