AV-8B Harrier II: History, Performance and Discussion

Alrighty, so a few questions surrounding the last Harrier II model not added for the US: the AV-8B Day Attack.

  1. Did the AV-8B Day Attack have a different cockpit to the Night Attack and Plus, or was it the same?
    (possible cockpit image, though this is the only one I’ve found thus far)
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  1. I read that up until 1990, the Harrier IIs had a less powerful engine, that being the F402-RR-406. After 1990, Harrier IIs got the more powerful RR-408. Were any of the Day Attack Harrier IIs equipped with this engine?

Probably a different cockpit with a single MFD like the Boeing archive image you have there.
bigger version of your image

With the UK’s Harrier II’s, the right-hand MFD wasn’t added until the GR.7 version, which was the UK analogue to the AV-8B NA where Harrier got a FLIR on the nose.
The GR.5 (analogue to AV-8B DA) had a single-function circular moving map display instead of the MFD
harrgr5-7

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The Mk408 was fitted on the Night attack and up. As far as I know no day attack harriers had the Mk408. This is sort of confirmed in the Tactics manual however I have been told that manual is NATO restricted and I can not post it.

They day attack and Gr.5 had the Mk406 and Mk105 respectively.

The Gr.7 in game is a very early model of it with most Gr.7 had 100% LERX and the Mk107 making them the Gr.7A model.

Regardless of all that every Harrier 2 is missing extreme amounts of Max AOA achievable at every given airspeed. They all take to long to climb and are too slow.

Even the mythical “VIFF” has zero function in game.

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Harriers take over half a minute too long to reach top speed at sea level. All Harriers time to speed significantly too slow // Gaijin.net // Issues

I saw the bug report before I saw this lol

Hell yeah lmao. I don’t know if I am over reacting about acceleration and time to climb. I personally feel half a minute too long to reach top speed at sea level and around a minute too long to reach any altitude is significantly inaccurate and should be addressed and fixed by the devs promptly.

The 13.0 Harriers would be a lot more competitive if they could climb and get to AMRAAM speed over a minute sooner.

personally I dont have or like the 13.0 harriers (cause I like the cold war ones:AV8A AV8C) but that much of a discrepancy at that br is huge and should be fixed

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Yes my personal favorites are the first generation harriers as well. They lack significantly more performance than the Harrier 2s in War Thunder. I even have all the sources required to fix them but for some reason Gaijin just refuses to believe the sources.

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hold on I got something for ya, NVM they deleted them someone made like 8 copy and paste bug reports on the abrams armor and eventually they had to tell him to stop or he would get banned guess he got banned cause the bug reports are completely gone

update found it on page 13 guy made like 8 of these looks like only 4 are still there
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/P7pccPuxXQLo

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Can Harrier II use AN/ALE-37?

To my knowledge no. But I can double check.

A2A IRST & missile guidance functionality for the AV-8B+ via LITENING AT TGP

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/jS291jJ6zFv9

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@Gunjob @InterFleet

AGM-65E Seeker Range:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/RePLOHOKVPZz

AGM-65E/E2/L Track Rate:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/lAKr78Q8067L

AGM-65E/E2/L/F/G Warhead:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/elXPRxl5e8GA

AGM-65D/F/G IR Maverick incorrect FoV:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/c0wIZ1uBCdhO

Litening II weight:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/k091OhJj9cVl

AV-8B Plus & AV-8B (NA) TPOD field of view:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/uOxBQxBf0QY2

AV-8B Plus & AV-8B (NA) TPOD angular limits:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/UhZ4CTWQJF30

AV-8B Plus missing HUD symbology:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/poB1WKIYxvCr

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Do you have proof of decrlasification for the A1-AV8BB-TAC-000?

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@Gunjob @InterFleet

APG-65Q (AV-8B Plus) ACM modes:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/7Zfe7nXeohWf

AV-8B (NA) and AV-8B Plus Empty mass:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/PETOezHY4By5

AV-8B (NA) and AV-8B Plus Speed Limit and (Achievable) Top Speed (in level flight):

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/BLDl3m3HvmGF

AV-8B (NA) and AV-8B Plus Acceleration:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/EfRAOsqvDHBC

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You tested the Turn rates wrong. You should be testing them with around 90% in game throttle.

110% throttle does not equal combat JPTL plug

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They will adjust it based on their internal testing anyways

But it’s clear that the performance data is off
Given that even the empty weight is off …

Can you elaborate with screenshots from the source?

I used 100% throttle for the game

Just refer to any of my countless forum posts and bug reports and you will see it all when compared with various sources.

Also where did you get the empty weight, you must also remember that war thunder doesn’t take into account the weight of pylons.

You should be reporting on the Harriers AOA as IRL it can pull 40+ without any issues. Yet in game we are limited to about 25 with both the Harrier 1 and 2.

80% throttle is usually about “normal” max RPM
80+% is combat thrust
(100+ is water injection)

its why the engines overheat over 80% throttle

So do need to be careful when testing because in game throttles settings dont line up with IRL all that well

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