AV-8 still 9.7 despite having flares and AIM-9Gs

[Stryke_Horizon]

I think people forget how pisspoor the early harriers performance actually are

[Morvran]

If they got fixed/buff sure. But SHars with Aim-9Ls and radars are very hard to play at their respective BRs. With only Aim-9Gs and no potential future buffs, they’d basically be unplayable.

For example this is what the Harrier’s were like IRL when it comes to defeating missiles:

Sea Harrier Over the Falklands by Sharkey Ward

but in game IR signature is based upon thrust:

@Gunjob

Confirmed with a dev, the only thing that matters for decoying an IR missile is the thrust to flare signature ratio.

@Gunjob

Not specifically no, but the Harrier’s (all of them) gain the most thrust at lower speeds, so as you turn and flare you’re increasing in thrust and lowering the ratio between the two. This probably explains why it feels hard to flare an IR missile, as you’re probably already going pretty slow while defending.

So basically Defending a missile in a Harrier is a pain in the butt due to game limiations. If that was fixed. Then sure, they could move up quite a lot.

[redeyepilot]

Lot of cm = 18?

[Pheonix_RX01]

Compared to other 10.0 and 10.3 thats more than them which have none

[Caernarvon02]

the hunter and GR1 harrier are at 9.7 with only SRAAM and no flares. ww2 jets face late Korean war jets. complaining about imbalance in this game is like saying water is wet. we know

[markimash]

@Caernarvon02

the hunter and GR1 harrier are at 9.7 with only SRAAM and flares

They dont have flares.

[Pheonix_RX01]

Swiss hunter harrier GR3 and both av8 have flares, i think he meant to say the GR3

[Vamilad]

@Caernarvon02

complaining about imbalance in this game is like saying water is wet. we know

I did not create this thread for your benefit. I created it to share feedback with the developers.

[Vamilad]

@FlyingDoctor this user is trying to mimmick you are you two brothers?

[BillyBobDa3rd]

Bro, I’m just trying to help you in keeping your thread unlocked…

[Vamilad]

Are you @FlyingDoctor ???

[BillyBobDa3rd]

No…

[TyphoonCro]

@Morvran

Guns: 2x 30mm DEFA with 250 rounds + Gunpod for an extra 250 rounds

Pretty sure Mirage IIIE doesn’t have a gunpod…

[Schindibee]

@Vamilad

Unnecessary.

Flares, missiles, 10.7

A-4 Ayit: Countermeasures, missiles, AGM’s, GBU’s, significant bomb load, …

9.3 in RB, 9.7 in SB.

[Caernarvon02]

i mistyped, it was very late at night. I’ve corrected the comment

[Vamilad]

Yes 9.3 with AIM-9Bs and an infinitely worse flight profile. Not 8.7

[Morvran]

Reasonably certain it does. Unless those are the internals

[TyphoonCro]

Those are internal cannons because if you take SEPR rocket motor, that space is taken by the oxidizer

[Morvran]

Ah… my bad then. Fixed it

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