ASEAN Founders Ground Sub-Tree

i know its kind of rude, but have they considered they have 1 unique aircraft, and singapore might just be a single vehicle in US air tree as far as aircraft go.

idk what they would do with the leopard though. singapore does have quite a few unique ground vehicles though, more than i thought theyd have

edit: they have 2 unique aircraft, A-4SU and F-15SG

That’s what most people I know are excited about, to be honest. Singapore has a metric boatload of unique Ground vehicles it almost seems a waste to add them as a Sub TT all things considered. I for one would love to see the M113 ULTRA

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So, I think the “best” parts of ASEAN are Malaysia and Singapore. Both the Chinese and Japanese main forces want it, which is bound to cause quarrels. This is the main contradiction of the entire ASEAN sub-tree idea.

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I mean there other f15 like f15qa, f15sa, f15K you can ask for but why specifically you want the f15sg?

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they have 2 newer IFV, 1 m113 spaa, 1 m113 with a bushmaster, 1 MBT variant, and 1 unique SPG

not quite enough to constitute a full tree but actually quite favorable for a subtree

it has the irst from F-15K with the radar of an upgraded C (not present ingame), and carries JSOW in service which F-15E doesnt

Hold on a moment; those two are only the tip of the iceberg. The Indonesians have several pretty good vehicles as well, and not to mention they would also end up giving whoever gets them a Project 68bis-class Light Cruiser (on the Naval side)

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So you just want a f15 that carries jsow? Ok i guess that reasonable but i feel you guys are gonna get a f15k instead because of the leaks (it says korea is going to US)

nobody cares naval :)
also we haven’t seen a naval sub tt now

F-15K has AN/APG-63v1 currently on F-15C though, and has IRST and can carry SLAM-ER

itll be lower BR than SG so they fill different purpose in US

the A-4SU could be interestig but i want A-4N and M for USA first

But, haha, no one cares about the Navy. China doesn’t even have a naval tech tree.

Oh but what about middle Eastern f15? Aren’t their f15 like literally better?

u mean F-15SA and QA? not anymore, but they used to be better than the F-15 of USAF

they are advanced eagle aircraft, like the new F-15EX, they have FBW and since it freed up space, they have an extra pair of wing hardpoints. the SA has APG-63v3 on SG and upgraded USAF C’s, and they have a MAWS and upgraded ECM suite, and has the IRST the F-15K and SG

the QA has the APG-82v1 found on upgraded USAF E’s and the EX, as well as nicer cockpit displays. other than that it is the same as the SA.

the new EX has EPAWSS, which gives it better ECM and more countermeasures, as well as the better Legion IRST pod and nicer cockpit, the APG-82v1 radar, and carries AIM-120D and GBU-53 which no non-US F-15 carries. i dont know if JASSM-ER are exclusive to US but if they are, then F-15E and EX are the only two that carry it. It is important to note, however, that the F-15EX current has no MAWS

Well i guess those f15 could be premiums instead

Honestly, except for the Malaysian part, yes. Because I just want to get Singapore, after all, there are alternatives for both the PT91M and the Su-30MKM. But together they want to get Malaysia’s star vehicle. So, you’re right on that.

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i think they could be squad event or premium but yeah, its unlikely they will be in main tree

Is it? I thought those are the only Soviet product on the market which used all Western system

I mean, there are alternatives on the game character. For example, the PT-91M can be replaced by the T-80UD (6TD-2), and the Su-30MKM can be replaced by the Su-30MK2 or the J-15/16. But in terms of the uniqueness of the vehicles themselves, they are truly unique and attractive.

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If Myanmar really enters the Chinese technology tree in the future, then the Su-30SME is also very good.

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Singapore makes sense but Malaysia?