ASEAN Founders Ground Sub-Tree

seems like thailand even had the VN16
not bad

honestly just want to see what the Leo2 & AMX-13 Turkish retrofit would be like, those two things are quite exciting

Some of you people are emotionally really immature.

As for the suggestion, Singapore and Malaysia should be left out as they’re both loosely related to Japan and excessive in terms of content, but other three are indeed valid sub-nations for Japan. Thailand’s Chinese foreign trade equipment (FK-3, VT-4, VN-1) should not be left out in this case.

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Is Indonesia approaching Turkey to retrofit their Leopards?

yep, was in agreement last year, although its still in early days, probably wont see it for a long time

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I haven’t seen any reports indicating that. Also I doubt RI needs any modernization. Is there any base Leopard 2A4s in inventory ?

Ah, that’s good to know. have they already started retrofitting?

This was from 2024, as far as I know only KAAN and frigate parts realized, there are no recent reports regarding AMX and Leopard. That being said, I would love to see modernized AMX.

we still have around 40 of the basic 2A4+s left with the rest already being 2RIs but the key difference between them is mainly just the armor plating, as the internals are the same for both

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Isn’t RI received new Electro-Optics and Fire Control Systems too ?

dont remember about the other stuff but for the 2RI the drivers does get a camera at the upper glacis of the hull

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Reinforced gun brakes for higher pressure anti tank ammunition, and FCS update for DM11 as far as I remember. 2RI doesn’t differ much from 2A4 internally otherwise.

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Such info isn’t published by the media and you wont find them, instead they were provided by the insiders in the government to the local military enthusiast forums

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Well I thought RI was more comprehensive than just AMAP.

In that case Turkey offers few different options for Leopard 2A4:

ROKETSAN T1 Armor Package
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ROKETSAN T1 Armor Package and ASELSAN PULAT APS
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ASELSAN’ Modernization Package for Chile

ASELSAN and ROKETSAN Modernization Package for Turkish TIYK Project

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Sure that’s a thing. I just haven’t seen anything on Turkish forums either. Would like to see if there is any rumors.

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And then have an emptier tree than Israel? Lol, Indonesia is better off joining up with Japan and consequently make both nations even stronger in the process, or the 3 nations since Thailand is there, Japan and Indonesia are deepening their ties when it comes to defense, economy and some joint development, they get along in modern times, and it’s a great sight to behold

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Finally someone with their feet on the ground, and not some rabid ultranationalist like we’ve seen some recently, I completely agree

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Japan already has access to Python 3s and now Derbys are coming in the F-5TH, last I checked Israel and Japan have good relations with ome another and get along, don’t think anyone from either nation would get mad if a truck with those weapons were to be added

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Fair though i still think there’s gonna be that small loud minority who will strongly oppose this

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Well then they can uninstall lol