I’ve been looking at a whole heap of old Indonesian Archive images from this Facebook Page: Priyono Bitles Combat | Facebook. There are some interesting images of Indonesian vehicles (some I didn’t even know we used) as well as other interesting & rare images of historical events and the like (ships, aircrafts, infantry, etc.). I’d suggest taking a look if you’re interested in that sort of stuff
What i found from there was that for the new light tank procurement program in around 1983, two wildly different designs was tested, but ultimately went with the marked-up Alvis Scorpions due to “reasons”.
Vehicles Tested
The first is the Wiesel which we already know was tested with the .50 cal turret, but apparently it was also tested the 20mm variant as well
Wiesel
The second design we tested was the Austrian SK-105 Kürassier, honestly I have no clue about the variant differences, but since they’re firing at night I would assume it has thermals or NVD
SK 105
Although we didnt buy either of them, the SK105 turret was eventually used in the amx 13 retrofit (yonkav 2)
with that out of the way here are some additional rare images of tanks/vehicles we used
ERC 90 F1 LYNX (shocking i know, no mention anywhere else but there's an image)
LVT(A)(4)
LVTH / LVT(A)(4) in the background
Jeep CJ-7 w/ M2B 50.cal
Jeep CJ-7 w/ LRAC F1 Rocket
Jeep (?) w/ RBS70
GAZ-69 w/ Recoilless rifle (American ones maybe?)
AMX-10P Marine (20mm Toucan II)
AMX-10P PAC-90
M3 Stuart
Source of images
Wiesel
SK105
ERC 90 LYNX
LVT (A)(4)
Jeep CJ-7 w/ M2B
Jeep CJ-7 w/ LRAC F1
Jeep (?) w/ RBS70
GAZ-69 w/ Recoilless
AMX-10P Marine (Toucan II)
AMX-10P PAC-90
M3 Stuart
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With the appearance of multi vehicle SPAA, we could expand the tree to include the SPYDER MR from the Philippines and/or the MBDA SAMP/T from Singapore. Although I wonder, does anyone know any updates on Indonesia acquiring their own version of the HISAR-O?
Edit:
Missed another part of the update that adds the SPYDER AIO, now it would be even more easier for Gaijin to add the SR and MR versions!
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They were ordered on 2022 but no recent news, supposed to be the Trisula-O (Medium-Range) & Trisula-U (Long-Range) as well as the SİPER
it would be similar to this
but with the Czech Tatra truck (currently unknown which version, could be this)
plus technically it wont be the multivehicle system we can add since we have NASAMS, Rapier, Skyshield,
GROM Poprad w/ Cobra ADS, etc
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NASAMS, Skyshield, and Rapier (I suppose Rapier could be considered but wouldnt really be a match for the SPYDER systems) technically arent vehicle mounted and would be stretching the definition of vehicle based combat of WT. Also dunno how would the entire Grom Poprad Aster system would be employed, like there would be technically 2 different weapons configured to a search radar. Now if only the Badak Skyshield was real tho
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its how its currently implemented though, with one radar-less vehicle as the weapon system and another as the radar (except at a lower BR obviously)
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Thai ground subtree is coming (and no further info for other ASEAN nations)
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Personally, I believe other ASEAN countries may have to wait until all minor tech trees get their subtree.
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I feel like we have a strong precedent for two subtree nations (South Africa and India, Hungary and Romania, Belgium and the Netherlands), so I think Thailand and Indonesia could do that here.
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Indonesia really do make the backbone of any ASEAN tree in general. Theyll be perfect to address the gaps left behind even with an expanded Thai subtree. I also feel like even if we all want the Thai VT-4, it simply wouldnt be added due to its sheer controversial nature so Gaijin could play safe with the addition of a Leopard 2RI.
It will also fill it with distinctly unique vehicles thats for sure.
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Yeah, Indonesia would solve a lot of problems for everyone here.
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incase people havent seen it here yet, this is a compilation of indonesian vehicles
Edit: Revised Tree V9
as of now 74 possible vehicles.
Green = Domestic vehicle
Red = Copy & Paste
Yellow = Domestic variants or modifications of existing design
White = non-domestic, but few in users
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Really hoping gaijin doesn’t screw up on ASEAN’s implementation, like splitting them up by giving Singapore to China and leaving the rest to Japan. It better be the whole package.
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Lets hope we don’t have to rely on just a few vehicles from Thailand but also Indonesia’s great additions at least.
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idk if this should be in Air or Ground topic but Japan is getting Mi-35P (based from the latest leak)
could it be TNI-AD’s Hind?
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Confirmed as Indonesian Hind, I posted it on the ASEAN Aviation Subtree since it’s a helicopter but yes brother we have our first Indonesian vehicle and the first vehicle of a second sub nation to Japan, the future seems promising
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Since there’s nothing talked about currently here are some pics of this magnificent beast, will be welcome for ground RB, wonder the BR though I’m afraid it’ll have to get uptiered
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Shouldnt be higher than ~10.0 - 10.3 if we’re being real, should look something like this:
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if they really add that many helis then this might be one of my favorite updates ever (as if it isn’t already going to be with Thai ground sub-tree being added)
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Pretty peak, if it’s 9.7 it should go along well with the Type 16, the RCV and one of the Thai tanks coming over if any are 9.3/9.7, I have the Type 74G as well which is 9.3 but good enough for 9.7
