It is your opinion, although I will have to stress - this suggestion doesnt really work if not all of the founding nations contribute. ASEAN was specifically formed because the 5 nations in SEA recognized the need for a regional bloc but saw the failure of SEATO thats why I emphasized the need to maintain the ‘integrity’ of the suggestion.
Its also because, while it was not mentioned specifically, Japan is actually the first nation to form a formal relationship with ASEAN outside from the first founding nations and even before other members ascended as full members with the formation of the ASEAN-Japan forum in March 1977 (Brunei ascended in 1984, Vietnam in 1995, Laos & Myanmar in 1997, and Cambodia in 1999). China actually only became a full dialogue partner with ASEAN in 1991.
tbh, since this subtree is going to be in Japan, there’s no point in having an Indonesian/ASEAN version of a Japanese prop plane. I’d rather we just get the Ki-51 and get an Indonesian skin for it.
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Oh, now that’s pretty interesting! Allegedly, the Museum also has a couple of pretty rare birds in storage. They recovered at least one Ki-48 from Babo Airfield, though they may have also salvaged a few other things
tbf there are some exceptions, the Indonesian Cukiu is somewhat unique since it is a mix and match version of the ki-55/ki-36, could be a low tier event plane or something
For the low tier premium I got some idea, the ATAIU-SEA allies captured vehicle. Although they are captured by British but it was test in Malaya and Singapore
Still not everything would do well in japan
Thailand and indonesia im fine with, phillipines already has vehicles in USA but other than that im fine with it being in japan but other than that no.
unfortunately I dont think it counts since we technically never used it as it was broken as fuck, and even when we eventually repaired it its purely for display since it uses quite a mismatch of parts
some tidbit of the restoration process if anyone wanna read
“The Hawker was repaired like a mock up. The ejection seat from an ex hawk MK53, instrument panel we made using aluminium plate with replica indicators. Canopy made by Depohar 10 bandung. Droptank was modified from hawk mk 53 droptank. landing gear struts… I forgot, I think it was a spare A4 Skyhawk.”
“Why not use the original parts? Because the price is absurd. This aircraft is so big that it needed 2 Hercules (C-130) sortie to bring it back”
“The original landing gear was built by hunter. The Wheel used A-4 skyhawk. In total, we spent almost 4 months working on this hunter.”
1st Sortie
2nd Sortie
“When I see the photo above, I laugh to myself. Back then, the Herky [Hercules] that carries it [Hunter] from the Trikora days are the same aircrafts that were hunted by the same Hunter back then. Now the Herky carried the Hunter to be restored without a grudge.”
Obviously, that is why this is the ASEAN Founders subtree, not all ASEAN nations.
This still allows the subtree to still form a coherent and complete grouping of nations, while conveniently limiting itself to the more “western” half of the ASEAN nations.
At least in terms of amount of potential content, Japan with such a subtree ends up somewhere similar to France/BeNeLux and Britain/South Africa/India, but still less than what USSR/US would offer.
This seems like a reasonable amount and enough to keep the tree relevant and competetive in the future without overshadowing the “major” nations.
And this still leaves other ASEAN nations for a potential Chinese subtree, such as Laos, Cambodia and Myanmar, that can very much also be combined with other subtree options they have like Bangladesh and Pakistan, as well as North Korea.
So, even though China still has more options than Japan, it is still the fairest option in terms of balancing the in-game factions.
Cambodia operates the MS-733A Alcyon COIN aircraft and Fouga Magisters however Cambodia only joined ASEAN later on when they stopped operating that model of aircraft
yeah, don’t think much french was in any of first 5 asean members, though historically TNI-AU almost get the Mirage 2000 in 1980’s and also again like a year or two ago (ex-QEAF fleet), and both of the deals fell off
Rafale also pitched up their sales to both SG and MY, the former lost to F-15SG and the latter wasn’t chosen on 2010s MRCA selection as it was cancelled right before the general election back in 2018.
The only close to what we have probably RAAF Mirage IIIO that once stationed in Butterworth.
