ASEAN Founders Aviation Sub-Tree

For anyone that interested to see the whole IdAF exercise, here’s the link: (the actual exercise took place between 44:55 and 2:17:30)

https://www.youtube.com/live/yn7FGT4q_jU

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Hopium

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Not bad, a bit C&P heavy for now but that will be fixed when the other nations come.

Though some of these loadouts and names still need a bit of work, but that’s just WIP for now anyways.

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Its too bad they didnt even pick the OA-37B Dragonfly which wouldve been a far better addition imo and actually still unique in the current patch. As always Gaijin does what it does best of implementing the short end of a very glorious stick.

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Keep it at thailand and possibly indonesia or phillipines. I still think singapore and malaysia fit better either in china or uk

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Honestly yeah i always wanted A-37

I agree with you, just as Japan needs CAS supplementation, China also needs stronger ground vehicle replenishment.

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Surely there are other nations UK can get.

And Uk already has several subtrees. Japan only has one

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they will strongly disagree for you

china exists already from 2 nation is getting pakistan and there is other options as well

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The real reason is that most of the naysayers want to see an extremely competitive sub-tree like Singapore appear in their country, haha.

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singapore isnt even that " competitive", thailand is propably stronger.
singapores best tank as example is only the leo 2sg
thailand has vt 4s and oplot.
Oplot being a unique new tank that will come
add to that gripen and co and it definitly is appealing

Singapore is great as well, but they only realy shine if added together in the same tree.

China one of the new major world nations with multiple tank projects etc isnt in need of additional vehicles from other nations when they will already get abrams in the future as well

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I am all for a competetive subtree for China to be honest.

I’d really like a similar multi-national subtree to this one, with Bangladesh, Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, North Korea, Pakistan and possibly other nations that have very close military relations to China.

I have also seen Iran brought up, which would have rather capable options. It was leaked in plans for Russia, but I feel like Russia has other options and with how inaccurate Chinese MBTs are China could use the MBTs Iran could bring.

But I still prefer the founding ASEAN nations for a subtree for the Japanese tree.

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I have always thought that Japan having ASEAN is similar to the UK getting the Commonwealth - Japan is after all a practical mirror image of the UK

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In dev stream and dev server show F-16A Block 15 ADF from RTAF ?

But might not problem F-5T SCU Tigris battle rating 13.0 or 13.3 with Python 3 (stock) and Python 4 Air-to-Air Missile

Agreed
Not every sub tree has to be in japan. Im suprised this is so controversial that every time i say this it gets taken down

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Aye, and honestly, even without a subtree, China still has a lot of unimplemented native vehicles. As for Sub TTs there’s still a lot of Bangladeshi and Pakistani vehicles that could be added too

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Yeah no nobody is claiming thailand or phillipines
However i have seen dumb suggestions like south korea, all of asia, heck even poland was suggested to be in Japan(not gonna put the link because i don’t want to target people but i have seen that before)

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In fact, what I see is the opposite of yours. The Japanese faction players tried to get the most “tasty” part of ASEAN and handed over the remaining copies of Soviet/Chinese vehicles to China and claimed that it was fair. Previously, the main argument against Singapore’s entry into China was that most Western equipment should not enter China, so what about Malaysia’s PT-91M and Su-30MKM? To the Russian faction? Someone will shout “XX bias”.

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Hard agree on this part.

No, Bangladesh and Myanmar are in no way equal to Singapore and Malaysia for what they bring as sub-trees. Thailand also in my eyes was the least problematic ASEAN nation to be added to China, while actually being relevant with the equipment they bring, but they were handed to Japan instead. Now, with Japan having the possibility of receiving T-84 and VT-4 (and a confirmed Gripen), I don’t see why people are so against China receiving a Leopard (which would be huge help considering Gaijin’s refusal to fix ZTZ series) and an F-15.

I’ll have to say, what Japan players are doing here is equal to UK players laying claim on everything ‘commonwealth’. Which too is ridiculous, but Japan has even less of a base.

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