ASEAN Founders Aviation Sub-Tree

KAISERLION · September 1, 2025, 3:20pm

We’ll see, waiting for devblog about it or even dev server for more info, Indonesia would really strengthen Japan a whole lot specially with their Leopard 2A4 and Leopard 2RI for ground, the Rafale can really come in clutch for one of the top tier options currently as even that single F-15JM with the IRST dome, rear end MAWS and upgraded missiles would still not be 14.3 material, unless gaijin decide to bring the JSI and make up their own assumptions before the thing is even in service, it would still be more real than the F-16AJ, another option is eventually the Thai Gripen E but I’d prefer to have a Japanese jet itself as an option for air too, everything is welcome don’t get me wrong

NFrost51 · September 1, 2025, 3:27pm

it does have FLIR though? thats what the bottom compartment below the cockpit is

yjie1028 · September 1, 2025, 4:13pm

Are this better than the AH64DJP?

NajmiCreative · September 1, 2025, 5:00pm

nah that’s basic IR camera usually (and you won’t get auto tracker and thermal vision from it), for modern FLIR it would be the common ball turret thingy unless it does refit into with that original IR sight housing

not really, also doubt they’ll add TNI-AD’s AH-64E either (copypaste moment), best it may be 9.7 or 10.0/10.3 RB since Ataka and Igla available for it, yet it doesn’t have the 4 and 8 rack Shturm/Ataka set unless I missed some photo and info. And one more thing, will Gaijin give HIRSS module to it, despite most of the time it was seen without it, though it does have IRCM equipped behind the turboshaft

yjie1028 · September 1, 2025, 5:14pm

Apache current problems is not about the variant but the loadout, Gaijin can adding as much of Apache as they like but those Apaches will still remain useless if they still using AGM-114K.

NFrost51 · September 1, 2025, 9:58pm

tbf the suggestion for it was passed to the developers a while back so who knows

WreckingAres283 · September 1, 2025, 10:00pm

I’ve a Suggestion for Indonesia’s Rafale B (as well as Leopard 2RI) pending, now also work on Hawk 209.

KAISERLION · September 2, 2025, 5:40am

Both are vehicles I’d love to see come to the tree, since there really aren’t many options, although for Indonesia’s air branch I wouldn’t mind if gaijin tried to keep it as western as possible, but I’ll say that it would be fair if something like the Su-30MK2 they operate comes because there’s nothing wrong with a Western and Eastern mix, people are ok with it when it’s the other way around like China

NFrost51 · September 2, 2025, 8:22am

forgot to mention that we dont own the HIRSS if i recall

ebilix · September 2, 2025, 11:35am

Also I’d like to mention that the Indonesian AH-64E uses AGM-114R3.

Not sure what R3 actually entails but Romeo Hellfires are slightly shorter range than the Ks.

In terms of avionics I think it’s equal to the current 64DJP.

NFrost51 · September 2, 2025, 11:52am

If i recall its also slightly longer and heavier than the K variants

ElGringo1121 · September 2, 2025, 9:54pm

What information is needed to have the best possible chance of getting an aircraft passed to the developers?

NajmiCreative · September 5, 2025, 1:51pm

a disappointing one

colosanation · September 5, 2025, 2:07pm

but hey we got a Indonesian vehicle

yjie1028 · September 5, 2025, 2:08pm

But where is the AH-64E?

NajmiCreative · September 5, 2025, 2:20pm

might be delayed I guess plus as you said, no Hellfire R’s (unlikely they’ll give it with JAGM)

WreckingAres283 · September 5, 2025, 3:36pm

KAISERLION · September 5, 2025, 7:17pm

I said this on the other post, F-5TH shouldn’t be 13.3 Next Major Update - Rumor Round-Up & Discussion (Part 3) - #710 by KAISERLION

Tigershark_3082 · September 6, 2025, 10:37am

Not to mention that the F-8H model being present in general could also allow for the US to get their own (which could be a bit higher than F-8E, featuring AIM-9H and better performance)