it was this:
judging from the pylon it is identical to ones on BAe Hawk’s Sidewinder rail
I believe it is around early 2000’s before the major overhaul in 02-04? which had the fleet changed from soviet camo to grey paintscheme
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also another Honorable Mentions could be Su-30MK2 for Indonesia (and by extension Vietnam too)
was thinking the idea of moving the heavy fighter under G8N1 line but sadly ASEAN nations don’t have heavy fighters until late 1990s-early 2000s which VPAF started with Su-27SK, buuuttt in case Vietnam is added too then VPAF Su-22 could be on rank 7?
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Where is F/A-18 and Mig-29N? And Su-30MKM at Russia tree also quite inappropriate because most of the interior system are from western, like the Damocles pod and Paveway
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Su-30MKM is literally from russia
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Why argue when Russia has the prototype MKM no matter where Malaysia ends up?
So if MKM really offers something Russia has no equivalent to, they can still add it.
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I know but it is the most less “Russia” Su-30 at the whole Su-30s family, only the fuselage and radar from Russia, other like MAW, HUD, LWS are all from western
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THAT’S WHY IT SHOULD BE IN RUSSIA, IT WILL BE UNIQUE
Also Su-30SM goes to russia as normal, Su-30MKK to china as it is in the PLAAF, Su-30MKI to UK, and all we have left is the Su-30MKA
Su-30MKM can either go to russia, china, Maybe UK(preferlably not) or if you really are desperate japan(china or russia is a better option though)
But neither Russia nor China use the MKM?
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Quite obviously
But stuff like the Su-25K and Su-25BM are put in russia because the original was from there
China also has quite close ties with malaysia(some areas more than others)
Why? Did Russia/China need another Su-30? Japan top tier are desperately need a CAS, that is why Japan need the sub-tree
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As a Malaysian I doubt it, I would say Malaysia-PRC relations is about the same as Malaysia-Japan relations
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There are no Su-30s in game but i don’t think balancing is the most important.
F-2 can go to japan if that helps
Point is i don’t think the Su-30MKM will be the best option to save japan.
This is why the Su-30MKM didnt make into the actual aviation subtree proposal and is instead an honorable mention
Although I would prefer the MKM to be part of the larger ASEAN subtree, I dont think it would be too disruptive to have the MKM part of the Russia TT as long as its flagged as Malaysian and the ASEAN subtree still gets implemented, ideally just as how its depicted in the post.
EDIT: Well, I didnt know but it seems that the MKM is basically a “Western” upgrade to the Su-30 so I am now even more on board with the MKM being part of the aviation subtree. Might even be good enough to get the Russian players to play other nations like Japan. Also other nations having better top tier stuff than the original manufacturer happens so often in this game. Sweden has the best Leo 2, and the US has a better AV-8.
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I am in favor of all these vehicles being added but i don’t think an “ASEAN” subtree would be a good idea
Singapore could go to UK, israel or china(please don’t debate me again, just agree to disagree)
Malaysia we either could have it in china, UK(?) or russia(remove the other vehicles and only have Su-30MKM and russian made vehicles)
Thailand i’m fine with in japan
Philipines im also fine with in japan or maybe US
Indonesia i’m fine with in japan
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That is what I means, I mean our relation with China is more or less the same as our relations with Japan, if political factors counted I would say Malaysia is more closer to Japan.
Bro, like our navy use shit ton of different nation ship LOL, from this to Germany MEKO to France Gowind, I bet future they will purchase Russia vessel also LOL
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I obviously disagree with Singapore going to the UK, but this is a reasonable take. UK already has a few subtrees though tbh
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Just give it to Israel😂, if Gaijin didn’t want to cancel Israel tree at least giving them something other than Merkava and Magach
Isn’t Phlippine already go to US? The Rank 1 biplane
US is also an option. sorry for forgetting to add it
Overall malaysia has pretty good relations with both candidates, however i think even though the Su-30MKM should be in game i don’t think japan needs it; they can get some other options for CAS
Also from my experience playing japan even at low tier the CAS ain’t that good, the bombs are really trash and the machine guns are under 12.7mm(idk if this is relevant, but just saying)