so idk if its just me but since they removed the armor value stats and this most recent update, shells and rounds that used to pen certain tanks can no longer do so? when did they change the volumetrics again? cause last i checked an su-122-54 didnt have enough armor to bounce 260m of armor pen. idk if im just going insane but this seems to be even an issue with tigers as well were the 100mm armor plate. which isnt spaced. or special. seems to shatter 17pdr shells on the front flat plates and the turret now seems impenetrable even with 269mm of pen from the 17pdr gun.
Su-122-54 does have enough armor to do that. You have to stop fooling yourself into thinking stuff changes just because you bounced a shot. You are experiencing a wide range of biases and applying them to your logic
Hey they wanted me to complain on here. So I am anf my point about the toxic community not actually explaining things and simply calling me trash and bad and a whinning baby hasent changed so. Why should I? None of you seem to actually explain anything and when ive brought up bias thats been shot down too. But now someone brings up bias and youre agreeding so. What would you like to do? Be a toxic human again or actually explain someting?
Not just one shot. Hundreds. Thousands. Used to pen on certain weakspots. Now im not. Used to pen on certain angles now im not. Used to bounce rounds angling certain tanks. Now im not. Somethings changed and yes there are biases in the game but those biases dont fundamentally change how things work 100% something changed if ever slightly to not be noticable to most but its a change none the less.
Thats not how that works. What you see in the stat cards isn’t what the game engine uses to calculate penetrations etc. That data is stored in separate databases for nerdy math reasons.
Gaijin has said that they did away with the stat card armor values because it was too hard to keep them synced with the actual values used by the game and/or real life measurements.
How do you know? Where you watching and counting every shot ive fired?
So instead of sitting here and arguing since you didnt really provide much usefull to the post. Why not just see yourself out other than just putting me down?
No matter if we even try and explain things, do you even take it on, so why should we?
Think about that for a bit, you accused me of being a hacker, and you blocked me on the game, all because you couldn’t handle someone possibly being better than you… A vehicle you used 140 times, which I have used over 4000, which the person you were upset about had 9000…
And yet despite you telling me. And me going and watching the replay later and still seeing the same thing i mentioned you completely disregarded me saying it. Because “you have more experience in it, and the other guy does to” so im just unskilled and bad and am imagining things when watching from his view point looked like his turret locked on. I dont think i every accused you of cheating so idk where you got that from.
If im so bothersome to you why engage with me, why even mention anything. If im just “making a fool of my self or fooling myself” why not just let it happen. You sit here and think okay so he doesnt know what hes talking about. Cause he hasent played enough. What if im seeing something youre not. Dont degrade me and put me down and brush me off because thats just making you just as bull headed.
Literally someone explained it to me in this thread and i went “oh. Yeah okay that makes sense.” I can have a conversation. But if your just saying “oh its cause they have so many thousands of battles or kills or hours of experience in a vehicle and you dont so you dont know what your talking about” that doesnt always sum it up.
And i blocked you cause you were being a jerk every time I talked and tried to converse with others and got tired of you parroting the same thing without actually meaningfully, imo, explaining anything that didnt sound like i was just being an idiot cause i wasnt as skilled or didnt have as much luck or battles under my belt
Ive had good and bad days. Just today i had an 8 kill, 0 death, nuclear finish with 2 kills in the b29 bomber on the way to the battle field. But i also learned how the tank i used operated.
And then the very next fight got dumped on 200m from spawn 3 times
So i get it i do sometimesnits just rng and the way the game works. But sometimes i see something that even with the wild card this game throws you every match. It just doesnt look or feel right and is suspicious.
You can’t have seen the same thing you seen because he didn’t lock on to you as you claimed, he missed a third of his magazine, but still got you really easily.
And the reason that I ‘engage’ with you, is because I remember you from over a year back with the same old nonsense on the forum here…
Because you weren’t interested in anything other than reaffirmative comments aimed at aligning with your bias, and complaint… I’m sorry but that’s not how discussion, or learning works… Not everyone is going to agree with you, or share your issue, especially when you’re already dead-set on trying to say it’s bad.
Further more, what they said didn’t confirm the changes you’re claiming in this thread, you’re only aligning with that because it makes you able to claim the obscurity of the values so you can say that they have changed and that’s why you’re having trouble.
Context applies here… I know you don’t take conversation directly, avoid accepting it and make arguments just for the sake of it, hence why I laugh everytime I see you anywhere now.
After all, people like me must be running something they can’t detect, right? Can’t be skill or anything about experience, just straight up, gotta be something else…
So me making a complaint. Putting it on here is just genuinely false and doesnt know what they are talking about. The game doesnt change at all. There are no adjustments. And im just talking to talk got it. Cool understood. Im done with you and imma keep doing what im doing. Cause things have changed sorry youre more experienced and play enough to not notice them and can adapt just fine to them. Glad youre a king among peasants.
The ambiguity didnt confirm my theory it was an explanation to what i was curious about. It didnt confirm something did change it made the system more understandable to me in how it operates and generates its values
Or was explaining instead of being like this to much for you. Cause again. Instead of sitting there and ridiculing and laughing you could just explain to a casual player instead of being a jerk. But thats to low for you right? Because “im just arguing to argue and not actually seeing what i saw” cool. Nothing came of my report, wanna know what that tells me. Maybe it was a maxed out crew. Like you said he fired a decent burst. The burst isnt what i was fighting. But i cant learn right? I dont wanna accept it right
But yeah. Everyone who claims a cheater or feels things have changed in the game is just insane. Doesnt know what they are talking about, and refuses to accept. So. You can leave this here cause i guess im just arguing to argue and dont want to accept anything.
Why would i say hes bad? A player that has no issue adapting or has the skill to not worry about changes why would they worry about it. If its not a change that would actually interfere?
Someone whose expertly skilled vs casual skill rely on different effect to get the same outcome. No?
If he plays daily or fairly regularly, he wouldnt notice the difference as readily as someone who has been away for months? No?