What is the reason for the Ariete AMV to be at BR 12.0? How can it comparable to Leopard 2A7, T-80BVM, Type 10 and Strv 122B ect.
I thought the reason for going to 12.0 was for more compression, so why put him at this battle rating?
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Just to fill a unnecessary gap. It’s Gaijin stuff, I support it staying at 11.7 considering the current state. And the decompression is for 9.0-9.3.
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Because it looks bad if a nation doesn’t have a “top tier” tank I guess. So it got moved to 12.0 so there’s a 12.0 vehicle. The AMV shouldn’t be there, heck, it should just sit at 11.3 with the other Arietes at 11.0… but oh well.
Same goes for the Leclerc, it is a very sad machine and could stay at 11.7.
Also italy has a top tier 12.0 tank with its 2A7 HU, which is a very very good tanky so there would not be a problem with reducing the BR of the Ariete.
That does not matter, they have in theory (I know not exactly Italian, but in the tech tree) Leopard 2A7 so doesn’t really matter. Just Gaijing thinking they are for no reason worthy and therefor they receive the stupid reload buff, but still it should be 11.7.
Ideal BRs imo would be:
12.3 - 2A7, 122B, BVM, 90M, Type 10
12.0 - Leclerc, SEPV2, Chally, 99A
11.7 - Mk4s, Ariete, VT4A1
I sometimes wonder if the devs actually play the game every once in a while xD
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F8F-1 at 4.7 is the answer (NO)
Type 10 doesn’t need to go any further, actually not over 11.7,
Call me crazy but only having the very top of the front of the chassis armored with Composite armor, and the front of the turret with armor not enough to hold top rounds it’s not excuse to put it to 12.0 even 12.3.
Yes Type 10 does have that monstrous mobility and good reloading rate but the armor barely covers the vehicle and ammo it’s a DM33, on top tier. 481mm of pen at point blank is nothing compared to others cannons. I’m not in game but this is the weakest round in term of penetration values at this BR.
lmao i was so quick to agree
Yes, forgot what I said, put it at 12.7, it’s unbalanced at 12.0, lol.
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Ariete can be top tier material if gaijin decides to fix it armor is similar to challenger 2 on turrent and hull similar to leo 2a4
You mean the Hungarian 2A7? Yeah, that should actually be 12.0 but the Arietes should definitely go down.
I mean the reload buff doesn’t even justify it in any way, unlike Merkava which now has good fire power.
Fast, DM53, fast reloading, good thermals.
If it had M322 instead, I could see it being 11.7.
BVM is 12.0 for similar reasons, though trade the good round for more hull armor, and a bit more turret armor.
Not a bit more though, I mean the other thing is, that people tend to play it differently when they have such little armour, their mindset change, like getting out of cover is something hard to justify which is just pointless if they do not have superior fire power to use with sniping or flanking.
what is gaijin waiting for to add armor and machine guns to the ram? it’s not a classified project, oto melara has a photo of this tank with extra armor and other key details on their website and shouldn’t that be reason enough to fix this tank? adding the Hungarian leopard to the tech three is not of great use, if the only 12.0 tank made in Italy is excessively difficult to play… as far as we can see we are the only tech three who had to compensate with a foreign tank for not wanting to add the armor improved to that of domestic production…