Im gonna keep it short and sweet, the Su-30 premiums DO NOT need to be 13.3, they carry more missiles than the Su-34, have a better performance than the SU-34.
Like seriously, WHO THE ACTUAL FLYING FUCK at gaijin made the decision for them to be 13.3, they need to be 13.7, minimum, probably as far as 14.0 or even 14.3, because even at 13.7 this thing as far past overkill compared to other jets of the BR, especially the JAS39C’s.
Look even if I own MKK I believe them to be 13.7 material but dude
You must be smoking crack if you think they are better than JAS39C
14.0? Make em 15.0 while we are at it…
They are worse than the other 13.7 flankers like the Su-27SM or J-11B.
Regardless, I’d rather them be 13.7, than be by far the best 13.3 planes if Gaijin refuses to decompress 13.0+.
how are they not better than the grippy (for average arb gameplay)
much more missiles, better missiles, and much faster
Probably because su34 is fighter bomber jet. Like su17 or mig27. And focus is on ground strike capability.
Gaijin won’t let premium su30s face 14.7 top tier. It will stay at 13.3 until more decompression happens. 12.7-13.0 will have to suffer with constant uptiers till then. I noticed that TT 13.3 gets the same downtier benefit as the su30 premiums so I guess that’s a workaround for this problem.
But yeah for arb I think all non tippy top tier flankers can afford to go up a br.
All 13.0 ones to 13.3, all 13.3 ones to 13.7, then the su-27sm to 14.0.
J11b is pretty mid so it can stay where it is
Su30 prems are the best fighters at the BR by far
The squadron su33 being at 13.0 for this long is criminal
6-8 r-27ers facing the 12.7 premium horde is so funny man
I’ve been using the Mig29N to ride the downtiers and its so sad seeing them guide sparrows on me when I just click with HMD, fire missile, and boom kill. I’m never touching 12.7-13.0 again till somehow planes that carry SARH cannot face Fox3, its so bad.
And the MiG-29N is one of the worst in the 13.3 bracket as well lmao, compression is a joke in this game
Yep, been getting 2-3 kills consistently. I’ve noticed whichever team has less 12.7 premiums and more 13.3 premiums win the match. It sucks NATO players are losing their money worth because their premium sucks. Meanwhile Russia and China players are speedrunning their air tree right now.
also gripen has much more CMs and turns much better
yes, MKK can spam out more missiles, but gripen has much easier time going into notch and/or turning the encounter around.
JAS39C is kill on sight whenever I play MKK; its the one plane I absolutely dont want to engage outside of having massive energy and position advantage.
that thing will notch my missile and then whip around its nose for swift counterattack in matter of seconds.
also a nitpick but I recall you calling 9M a better missile than PL8B few days back :p
yeah but you can just pick r-73 instead of pl8b.
and it has r-27et which is nice situationally but id’ rather just take r-77.
bahhhhhhh im prolly conflating the su-27sm speed with the su-30mkk/mk2, u right
i’d rather have the loadout which is much more important than those 2 things.
(not like 96 cms is bad for 13.3)
ye, both premium Su-30s lack the engine upgrades of SM, but radar and RWR is identical
shrug.
You can, yes. But why would you do that, that is the other question. Outside of high off bore shots, PL8B will always perform better due to higher acceleration and thus lower time to target.
but I digress, not the point of this post, R-73 is option for both premium Su30s, and neither of our personal preferences matters that much.
CMs are part of the loadout.
FM cant be overlooked either, being able to get proper firing solution will do just as much as having more manueverable missile and better FM also helps you defensively.
I feel it in higher intensity games.
The one with PL-12s should be 14.0 and the other one(s?) 13.7. Zero excuse.
