Are there any AH-64s available for Italy, Germany, or Switzerland?

Are there any nations that used to be sub-trees for Italy or Germany that could potentially carry AGM-179 missiles on an AH-64 helicopter? Spike ER and PARS-3 LR are quite underperforming and their ammo count is too limited

Czechoslovakia,they have ah1z.

i think its better to ask for a fix to spike and PARS
PARS:

  • (lacking penetration power (should be upto 1300mm as iirc its the same warhead as on the MR which has 1300mm penetration post ERA))(MBDA presskit)
  • range
  • top attack
  • proximity fuse
  • (should be immune to DIRLCM)

Spike:

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Gaijin will never fix it.

Italy eventually will have a new heli with spike lr2 i think / akeron lp and dircm, so there is no need to find something for it.

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Czechoslovakia never operated the AH-1Z 💔

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They do

Nvm, AH-1Z were operated by Czech Republic and not Czechoslovakia

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Short: no

Long: even with Questionable Reasoning the chance is 0%

We will have to wait until 2027 for AW249 NEES to be used.

If we disregard the requirement for AH-64E to get the JAGMs…

Not really?

Only possibility for Germany would be Poland (which could be Ds or Es), but I would rather see Poland be part of a Warsaw pact TT at some point in the future, rather than slapped onto Germany as a sub-TT they dont really need.

I cant see any other options for them

Italy is even worse, with none I can reasonably see. Greece maybe could have been, but they seem to be going to Israel instead.

So I think the only realistic option at the moment is buffs for Spike and PARS

Not even a possibility, it just won’t happen

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Italy flat out does not need a AH-64 since they have a domestic counterpart in the A129 and AW249. There’s still A129 variants that still can be added.

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Spike is terrible. So if they don’t fix it, then it needs 64.

Spike is terrible. So if they don’t fix it, then it needs 64.

Not an argument. Also AH-64 also use Spikes so that’s a mute point any ways.

Italy need their lower Heli tiers to be filled up and the Soviet Slop vehicles removed