As @SwingfireOP said, there’s a difference between ragebaits and false claims.
there’s ALSO a difference between ragebaits and sowing misinformation.
I don’t see rage, I see him trolling and making false claims, which I always push back on.
I reserve my rage exclusively for gaijin and people who chew with their mouths open.
Well whatever he did, it was hilarious. Not because he’s entertaining, but because how ridiculous it is.
I’m very much well aware.
Same and real.
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huh neat. Anywho, sense theres basically nothing about its seeker head. Would this be a bug report type of problem or a passed to developers type of thing?
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A bug report could be tried, but I’m fairly sure it would be rejected as the only source is a marketing brochure.
The irony isn’t lost on me.
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It was commented and then closed. The original idea of the thread was good, a welcome discussion to open in the Forums, but as you can see at least I think you experienced, the great majority of the comments on that reply either was just a scratch disk repeating the same-same comments or others that don’t have nothing to do; resulting in a huge derail and sudden close of the thread.
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erm sir please provide source
Personally I think the idea of removing the Kh-38MT is not going to happen even if we (players) get at a point of the “War Thunder Players Union” stupidity again just because of a in-game item that affect a small percentage of the players compared to the game as a whole, that’s why I think we didn’t have any official comments if that whole chaos made in that thread will result in something, actually did: in nothing.
i mean i would be fine if kh-38mt is ingame if
- They buff other AGM(65s drag coefficient, flight profile, etc…)
- Make it cost 1k+ sp to spawn(since its stupidly OP compare to other AGM)
- Buff SPAA(no CAS=tank gameplay, yay)
- ACTUALLY FIXING SPAA(adats bug report on elevation is 2 years for example)
- Give more reward on killing planes
- They nerf 38mt(zoom and thermal are better than some targeting pod, wowie, nerf to 15x zoom and gen 2 thermal-its 25x and gen 3 currently)
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Calling the 2023 episode a ‘stupidity’ is… Concerning. And shows the lack of understanding of why games like the main competitor of WT is dying at a supersonic pace. The excessive amounts of greed and lack of Quality of Life updates were leading the game into a crash course at a vertiginous speed.
So if it’s not a 50+1% issue for the community, it shouldn’t be adressed? How selfish is that.
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Yeah ive made one and they instantly denied. GAIJIN and thier Russian Bias
You can post that bug report?
I just wonder it.
In my opinion the AGM-65, specially HEAT warhead only needs a rework on the overpressuring and penetration logic, some times (regardless of the vehicle) it explodes but causes no internal damage, further a crater is made under the target as if it wasn’t hit by a missile.
Making a weapon cost over 1 000 spawn points is pointless, better off going to a Nuke or get similar and cheaper weapons, the Kh-29T still a very effective with 1/4 of the total range of an Kh-38MT in-game currently. Despite the issues with bug report not being fixed within days and such stupidity from the CBRS, ADATS and other currently in-game SACLos missiles can still beat ordnances as well planes, I was surprised that a VT-1 could face some missiles in a match.
Regarding rewards, is a in-game general issue, I agree that ground realistic battles specially ground vehicles need better rewards compared to air realistic battles, you sneeze one time and got enough research points for a plane while you destroy the whole world for a Rank I modification, obviously is exaggeration but I mean that the reward between one and another doesn’t help the situation, specially in a gamemode that can take between 10 minutes to the total 25 minutes.
@MikeyPlayzonYT
How is saying there’s no evidence of functional Kh-38MTs “ragebait”?
Either prove them real or agree with us that there’s no evidence at this time.
I’ve been demanding people provide evidence for the better part of 2 months on the forum, longer on Discord.
I initially said there’s no evidence of the existence of Kh-38MTs, I’ve never said anything otherwise.
Sorry, but Kh-38MTs lack evidence regardless of what y’all claim.
Swingfire be changing his positions constantly though.
I’ve said this in the past myself. SwingfireOP and I have agreed on over 80% of things stated.
SwingfireOP and I were literally saying on the Kh-38MT may not exist topic that there was no evidence. He knows my stance cause it’s his stance as well.
Also I’ve amended my initial post to portray my thoughts and position more accurately.
There’s no evidence of functional Kh-38MTs as of my current knowledge set. If anyone has evidence, provide it, otherwise we agree.
I’m calling the War Thunder Players Union of a stupid idea, while we know that who really made change were the players as a whole, if the War Thunder Players Union actually did something to help change, they would have over millions of members in their Reddit, which is not the case.
War Thunder is one of the few games within a theme doesn’t have a direct competition, you need to understand that World of Tanks doesn’t aim for realism, it aims for the complete opposite, while being better suitable for tournaments, War Thunder is more niche compared to a game like World of Tanks that is easy to understand.
If it’s 80% issue for the community should be addressed, while in the Forums compose the minimal percentage of the total of players in War Thunder, this wouldn’t do nothing, is a very specific topic, not everyone plays day and night high tiers in ground realistic battles.
omg this is so true, it took me 9 ground match to research parts and only 2 matches to get rank I mod on planes
that would require alota work, im sure gaijin would… NOT do it
yeah but 1000sp u can nuke 30% of the team and deal significant dmg to morale and some would one dead leave = win
and getting nuke isnt always guarantee, its better to spawn a planes that can nuke 30% of the opponents than trying to go for the nuke itself
@PyroAddict i know what ur gonna say
dont say it
let “him” cook
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IMHO it could’ve been an interesting concept if the typical after-success megalomania had not intervened in their hierarchy, but considering how you rephrased it, i’d agree.
This is a completely valid (and indeed correct) theory in a deep analysis. However, the reality is, most of media and the internet likes to compare both games, regardless of their core mechanics or concepts. So in practice, they’re competition for the public, and they tend to appeal to the same market. No wonder why both games have this practice to add those odd pillows.
I mean, it’s almost common sense.
I can see where your argument is going, but there’s enough content on most of social media reviewing the missile (and its respective platform), saying how great it is compared to other AGMs, and comments that also support such claims. This is not just ‘a forum thing’, and i don’t know if it’s a fair way to frame it to begin with.
Also, i could’ve believed that top tier wasn’t played as much a couple of years ago. But now, with the US, USSR, Germany, GB, Japan and Israel having at least a 11.3 vehicle that can effectively face the top dogs, i’m not sure if that sample of yours as a ‘minority’ of the playerbase is such a thing.
If its a minority, its among the most numerous.
Considering that the Su-30SM, Su-34 can carry six Kh-38MT that would be ~18% about 19% of the team, which means one single ordnance for a single target not considering collateral either by explosion nearby by splash of the ordnance itself or exploding targets (like the Panther incident causing the destruction of neaby allied or enemy vehicles when hit in the ammo).
In my opinion, or better, in my gameplay style which consist of a single vehicle per match, I think seeing six of the team members being destroyed isn’t really morale damaging, the only moment of morale damaging is taking a hit in the breech, having the gunner and driver knocked out or not being able to flee out of an encounter I can’t deal with.
As I said, even if it’s cost is increased to over 1 000 spawn points, there will be people that will do the same as if it wasn’t increased, the performance is the same, even before the Buff you mentioned which I wasn’t knowing about it will still act the same, as I said, is more reliable taking similar and cheaper weapons or going straight for a Nuke rather than playing just to get the Kh-38MT at that point, at least that what I would do.
Prove her false and I will believe her, prove her true and I will believe her, I just ask for correction of the FM of the Flankers and Mig-29, otherwise it’s fine
there’s circumstantial evidence China tested them.
mass tagging is such a strange thing to do, don’t come into a discussion by stating something with literally no base behind it, getting a response back, and acting smug while fishing for drama. Get off your high horse.
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