GJ could go long way to fixing bombers by reinstating the higher spawn altitudes and gunner skills of say 2015.
I have 25 researched bombers I will likely never buy. I spent a bit getting gunner crew skills maxed. As far I’m concerned, GJ owes me money for nerfing the gunners right after I got there.
since the update I observed a strange effect - when a bomber is destroyed very often its bombs also show up in the killfeed. This also happens when the bombs are already dropped - if the plane is destroyed the bombs also counted as destr. This is a huge nerf to planes - I don’t know if its a bug or really intended…
Bombs were destructible long before recent update, only rewards and kill-feed were added.
Yeah, if you dropped bombs under heavy fire in most cases you were dead, by your own bombs explosions. Moreover, you are able to kill yourself in some attackers, especially shooting at your own rockets. But I did this few times even with bombs on Wyvern :D
They could just rebalance them after adding seperate ARB/GRB BRs, most bombers are woefully overtiered, only one I can think of that isn’t is the ju288.
Same for pretty much all strike aircraft with some exceptions like wyvern. Would also like to see airspawns just removed and planes put where they should be without them (bombers should still get airspawns obviously).
In my thousands of games in bombers I don’t think even once I’ve seen a base bomb/airfield bomb win condition be fufilled so its not even like its going to disrupt matches if they get moved down.
Two important words there. Bombers get intercepted waaaay too often.
Gave up Air arcade for a couple of reasons.
Yes Bombers are way to fragile.
Its in part the damage model.
Mostly its how over pressure and He filler work in warthunder…
Which has been broken ever since Gaijun started called self propelled artillery Tank Destroyers.
The HE filler and fragmentation is roughly 2-3 times more effective than it should be.
Over pressure is also far more lethal than it should be. If MTBs were thise fragile they would not be made period top down missiles are rapidly making the concept of MBT obsolette. if pure HE was this effective tanks would have gone light decades ago.
Yes, yes, yes…bombers exploded in mid air, yes yes yes others came back missing half the fuselage, and tail.
These are not the most common results, most gun camera footage is of damage to engines, if bombs were so delicate as modelled in warthunder. the footage wouldn’t show the engines, wings as the priciple target area, but into the body…
currently to my knowlwdge there is no ricocette mechanic when you hit a bomb.
three things need to be fixed
Exagerated damage of the filler in small caliber ammunition.
Exagerated and broken over pressure mechanic.
bullets, shells richoette mechanic on bombs…
Currently its not worth playing bombers…only pure luck, those messages that started appearing a few updates ago that says (name) 1000kg bom (name) 1000kg bomb the aircraft that dropped them…
That means a bomb outside the aircraft got hit, and the person that shot you down was rewarded for being a crap shot.
Bombers only succeed in arcade ( all modes really) if there are several and the one that survives gets lucky and isn’t seen because the others are being shot down, while it side climbs and gets high enough.
Pity the B-24 pilot trying to bomb ground targets for pin up decals needing 700
Yes, the bombers still too fragile :( i don’t know why nerfed…
Because everyone said it too OP and impossible to kill and have too many defensive guns.
Unfortunately nowadays to weak all bombers :( 2-3 hit and
falls to pieces.
And somehow people still call it too powerful. People ragebait gaijin so hard now Tu-4 faces Supersonic aircraft and Missles.
Bombers are incredibly flimsy in AB ground battles as well.
A single spray from a fighter will rip your tail or wing off 90% of the time.
exactly
unfortunately this is true :(
I don’t understand how Gajin doesn’t see how screwed up this is.