APS on Abrams

I’ve had it always intercept vikhrs. But that was a while ago

Before it was bugged, which part of that went over your head?

Half of the issues you mentioned as bugs clearly aren’t. Same with iron fist and other APS, they have/had 100% success rate. Even against 500kg missiles dropping on top of their roof at supersonic speeds

The only non-bug is the FnF heli atgm interception rate, which is lower than it could be, especially following the nerfs to roof composite that are coming

that’s the link of the topic. Lets hope about more impartiality and less politic in this game.

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In any case, the CATTB will be 12.0, so it will not be able to counter object 292.

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pretty sure the us has the most aps equipped vehicles, dk where you got the “only” from😭

good thing the only two agm’s with top down are kh-38 and LMUR… totally no problem with that even though they denied it for everything else…

Too much salt.

I would if it was actually worth my time. I read the first 2-3 sentences and already knew it was some US main yapping.

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Russia has more.

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The only APS that’s any good is the Drozd on the 55AMD, being tiered low enough to frequently see vehicles that rely on ATGMs. The rest are barely worth mentioning, only Black Night with Iron Fist is worth considering at top tier as the other APS is either bad (Merk) or the tank itself is even worse (VT4A1/72B3A).

idk how you can even be mad about the M1A1HC APS not performing at top tier like the OP is and hold the T-90A/T-80UK against USSR

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I’m not mad about anything, because the M1A1 HC and US 11.7 in general is god tier.

However saying that the US has the most vehicles with APS in game is wrong, especially since if we can cross the T-90A/T-80UK APS off the list as not usefull we can do the same for the M1A1 HC’s APS.

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Because those leopards (except for the Italian one), are lackluster compared to the Germans lineup of leopards. I mean don’t get me wrong, they’re good tanks either way but I feel like having 1 export leopard vs a whole lineup is pretty abysmal. So a whole slew of Russian tanks and German tanks on the same team really does seem to put the opposing force at a disadvantage. Or would you like me to just ignore the in game experiences I’d say without a doubt, many of us share? Now add in russias dominance in the air due to both having some really overpowered SPAA’s and jets with some of the best air to air and air to ground, and their massive selection of support vehicles, and them having some of the best helicopters in the game also with some of the best AGM’s, and you’ve got a recipe for a completely one sided match that ends in a spawn trap usually within the first 5-10 mins of the game. And even if not, why not mix it up a little bit? It kinda gets old fighting the same tanks back to back for multiple games. I personally have gone through an absurd amount of games where those two nations are stapled together opposing NATO forces, which once again are lacking. And don’t you want verity? Keep things interesting, shake it up a bit. Also apologies for late reply, this was my first post and I was restricted from messaging because of it.

The point is we don’t have a single hard kill system even though it would be completely reasonable to add to the Sep v2. It would add some survivability to the tank in a br dominated by AGM’s. I think it would be a great addition to have at least one top tier tank equipped with a hardkill APS for every nation that historically had it. Why would you possibly disagree with this, unless you just don’t want nations to be on equal terms. And instead of arguing that the other APS systems are bad, maybe you should be telling gaijin to fix it…
We have so many things in this game that have been left alone because it’s not a nation that gaijin favors. For instance, the MIM-72E. Can you tell me what the difference is between that and the one that comes stock? Don’t worry, I’ll do it for you… there is none. It’s the same damn missle but it’s supposed to be smokeless. Can you give me an honest explanation on why you think that is?

would be much better to remove FNF AGM’s and siginificantly nerf the amount of planes present in a match

gaijin is incredibly incompetent

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Well if you read the whole thing Renzo, you would’ve taken note of how predictable you are and would’ve saved yourself the embarrassment of coming here and doing exactly what was predicted. When I said I’ve read plenty of the threads, I mean I’ve read plenty of the threads. You have been in a lot of these threads and say the same old shlop every time. So if you have nothing valuable to add to this discussion, then maybe just don’t be here…
Also before you go to look at my stats and accuse me of being a shitter, I’m not a god tier player by any means, I’m slightly above average at best. Good days and bad days. So with that being said, until you have something useful to say, I will not engage with you, I will not be rage baited by you, and I just generally don’t care what you have to say until you have something worthwhile to add to this discussion. Until then, ✌🏻 have a good day.

I would love if they just scraped ir AGM’s and drone scouting. It takes a lot of the fun out of the top tier.

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The object 292 was developed in 1990. The CATTB was developed in 1987-88. Just a little fun fact. But yes I agree it should be a 12.0 and I’m completely fine with that. I should’ve been more clear on what I meant. The object 292 is the CATTB’s counterpart. So not an in game counter but a vehicle with similar intentions as both aimed to increase the lethality of their tanks.

The only issue I could see with this is deciding what its pen should be. It would be more than the 292 irl but to give it over 750 pen would be very unbalanced especially with all the features it has at its disposal. Idk what the exact penetration of its round was so if anyone has that information please share. But I what I can see happening is them deciding to keep it in the 600’s and then it might come into contention with the m829a3 /4 rounds, if gaijin ever decides to to add it and stops lying to themselves about how its era defeating steel tip isn’t effective against era. 🫠
I understand not all era but some extra effectiveness would be nice.