An accurate Leclerc for war thunder, every legal thing we know about it

Armor of Leclerc tanks

Leclerc SXXI:

“Written question No. 24140 from Mr. Warsmann Jean-Luc (Union for a Popular Movement - Ardennes) published in the Official Journal on 01/09/2003 page 6776.”

Mr. Jean-Luc Warsmann draws the attention of the Minister of Defense to the nature of the armor of the future Leclerc S XXI tank mentioned in her response to question no. 21313 published in the Official Journal on August 4, 2003, page 6198. He would like to know if the tank that will soon be delivered to the French army will be equipped with armor capable of resisting depleted uranium munitions similar to those used by the American army during the war in Iraq.

Response published in the Official Journal on 27/10/2003 page 8199.

The Leclerc SXXI tanks will be equipped with a new turret armor that will provide them with better protection of the frontal arc against missiles and next-generation armor-piercing munitions.

The latest generation shells in 2003 included shells such as the 3BM46 from 1991, the DM53 from 2001, or the KEW-A2: M829A2, which dates back to before the 2000s. I couldn’t find a precise date, but a document discussing these APFSDS was published in 2000 by General Dynamics (file:///C:/Users/jeanl/Downloads/120mm%20KE-W%20A2%20APFSDS-T.pdf), the manufacturer of these shells, suggesting that they were produced before the 2000s.

If the DM53 has a penetration of 652mm at 10m at an angle of 0° as you claim in War Thunder, we can easily deduce that at least the armor of the

turret of the SXXI is superior to 652mm based on this information.

On all the Leclerc :

According to the book “The Leclerc System” written by Stéphane Ferrard in 1992, the Leclerc.

“In a frontal sector of 30° to the right and left, the structure of the tank would be able to withstand the impact of arrow munitions belonging to the largest calibers currently available on the market.” The turret and chassis of the Leclerc tank consist of a framework made of mechanically welded steel plates onto which a set of removable boxes containing composite armor is mounted. The turret is protected by a set of twelve added boxes (six on each side), covered with a non-slip fiberglass coating. The turret is also surrounded by a set of composite boxes that serve a threefold purpose: to transport the onboard equipment, reduce the radar signature, and create spaced armor in front of the main composite armor blocks.

Self-sealing structural tanks are located at the front right of the chassis, in front of the turret containing 18 rounds of 120 mm and above it, under the plate serving as a support for the composite armor of the glacis. The frontal protection of the chassis sides is provided by three lateral pre-armors, each consisting of a composite panel covered with a steel shell.
The tropicalized Leclercs have 6 compartments. All were mounted on hinges so that they could be tilted onto the body, reducing the width of the vehicle to make it compatible with the SNCF gauge.

Also, the turret of the Leclerc has composite armor but also reactive armor, it is explain by a commander of a leclerc crew in the video name « Le CHAR LECLERC : l’arme absolue de l’‪Armeedeterre‬ avec visite du poste de chef de char ! », realised by xavier tytelman, an ex rafale pilot and expert in armement.

The engine is suppose to be quiet like irl, information that you can find easily and see by yourself in many video. One of the particularities of the Hyperbar process specific to the V8X1500 engine is that it does not smoke when accelerating, which helps reduce the infrared signature of the tank. The exhaust temperature of the TM-307 B turbine never exceeds 370°C, whatever the speed of the tank’s Diesel engine. Like explained in the book « le systeme leclerc », one of the goal of this project was to make the leclerc as stealth as possible, sound and visibility (infrared signaturer too).

Every Leclerc should have access to a 7.62mm machine gun on the turret of the leclerc.

Thanks you for reading the document, and for your work, I hope you will one day make the leclerc a bit more accurate and fun.

Sincerely.

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The general rule is that if a tank has a feature that isn’t simply a fill-in-the-blank, it won’t be modeled. /s

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So you think explain whats wrong with proof, logic and source is “fill-in-the-blank” ?

I’m saying things like adding a machine gun, or accurately modeling the engine isn’t a simple task so Gaijin will probably never do it.

Don’t get me wrong, I love the Leclerc and think it should be made more accurate. I was making a joke about how long it takes Gaijin to fix certain vehicles.

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Oh ok I see, yes gaijin hate france for some reason, but I dont think its hard to make a mg, I mean gaijin are know for ctrl+C, and the mg is on the leclerc S2 with the azur pack, so copy paste and its done. They add spall liner and all armor on most mbt so why not leclerc ? Question of preference its not about work or time it takes

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It’s pretty good thread with solid sources. It would be great if Gaiging accepte something like this, but to be realistic, it will never happen… We can do a hundreds of suggestions and bug reports and nothing will change, sadly… But we can try to do something

until the ministry of the culture of russia stop financing gaijin, this will never change. Its like for heroes 2, it was ban in russia by the same ministry because soviet were “not patriot enough” , Gajin have to much to loose, there are too many russian player, it will never change.

I just got to the Leclerc S1 and S2 this weekend, Im a little shocked how bad they are, Ive worked months to get to these tanks and they are so bad, the ammo cannot pen anything, OFL 120 F1 very bad, I have got all the mods for it to improve my chance and still bad.

I think the MSC was much stronger and could take more hits,

I just hope the Leclerc SXXI is better then the S1 and S2.

Im-gonna-have-to-stop-right-there-meme-2

Jokes aside, the armor isn’t the most tanky, especially the hull, but it can work in hull down. The gun is about below average for its BR, mobility is good though, and the reload + gun handling is a big plus

Regarding SXXI, Gaijin kind of forgot about the titanium inserts, oh well, classic gaijin might i say

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I quit playing it not worth it when they offer Leopard 2 firing higher pen round better turret armor CITV
wish Gaijin fixing it but seem it useless when they’re incompetent and don’t bother doing it.