Anyone bother bug reporting the wrong thermal generation on russian vehicles?

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  • Catherine XP is implemented in the game as the 3rd Gen. you can see in Crotale NG.

  • And, Ka-52, Mi-28N/NM, AH-64, AH-1Z, EC-665, and Lynx all have the same quality thermal. AH-1S/F is the only helicopter that has a 2+ Gen thermal, Problem is that the AH-64A, Lynx, and AH-1F should all have 1st Gen thermal.

  • Game has a 2S6M1 that was upgraded in 2003, not a 2S6M. But given that it’s a 2003 upgrade, it seems excessive that it’s 3rd gen. I’ll look into this.

  • T-72B3 in the game is a 2011 model, which used a 2nd Gen Catherine FC thermal. The T-80BVM is at least a 2018 model and uses the 3rd gen thermal, ФЭМ18М.

  • ФЭМ18М-03 thermal used by 2S38 is the 3rd generation, 2S25M needs investigation

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Am I correct in reading that as the resolution being 256x320?

Photodetector format

I’ve double checked and you’re correct on this one, it must’ve changed since I last checked, sorry for the accusation.

The UBH modification on the T-72B3 is a 2016 modification as per its own devblog:

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It does still seem to use Catherine FC though.

The ФЭМ18М sight has a stated resolution of 640x512 if Im reading this correctly, which still makes it lower than in-game gen 2 sights. If rounded to the closest generation in-game, it would be a gen 1 sight. If rounded up, itd be gen 2.

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As an aside, from my understanding, the T-80BVM, the T-90M, and the T-72B3UBH all use the Sosna-U, which either uses Catherine-Fc or PNM-T, which are similar, but with Catherine-Fc being superior.

Although I have heard of russia acquiring Catherine-XP, I have never seen anything stating they use them in their tanks, only that they planned to use them, although I could be wrong. With even T-90M being confirmed to use the PNM-T analogous to an inferior Catherine-Fc

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As previously stated, Catherine-XP is still inferior in resolution in-game to gen 2 thermals:

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I can’t find the resolution regarding the ФЭМ18М-03 unfortunately.

For whatever reason, my quote function is broken

4/5 of those are data tape recordings.
The what looks like a photograph of the screen doesn’t prove anything.

Sniper pod data tape recordings are just as bad:

In game T-80BVM and Sprut-SDM1 are using sight with with 3rd gen 640x512 format FEM18M-03 photodetector matrix allegedly with µscanner that gives it output resolution of 1280x1024 (Same story as with Catherine MP).

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PNM-T is name of sight same as Sosna-U. Catherine (and TPK-K also) is only name of thermal imager. Sosna-U/PNM-T are using Catherine FC (built pre ~2014) imager and imagers based on FEM10M (Belarus-Russian made copy of Sofradir 288х4 used in Catherine FC) and FEM18M-03 (Russian 3rd gen matrix photodetector).

Leopard 2’s ATTICA (as of now) is based solely around an LWIR camera with a 640x512 detector elements array, and is interlaced for a higher final pixel output.

Right now KMW is preparing an upgrade to ATTICA M-2 with a 1280x1024 detector array for the Leopard 2A7V and Leopard 2A8 (unknown what Leopard 2Ax will receive).

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Which is only 30 pixels difference to the Leopard 2’s WBG X which is gen 1 in game.

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