spaded the 3C in three games, its legit one of the best gunfighter for the BR, im kind of torn between it and the f8e (the french one is a bit tricky because no CMs). If i were you id get up at the start, get your free r530 kill since that thing is legit cracked up high, and then use the godly reverse ability of the mirage to gun people who foolishly merge with you, defas hit like a freight train and the air belts melt everything once you unlock them. If your team melt it starts to become dicey, usually i just RTB and j out, i cant be arsed to carry games 1v8 in a flareless jet. But if your team pulls their weight you can just get in there and gun 4 guys down in 30 seconds since you pull AoA out the ass. You also get a LOT of ammo so you can spray a bit, always helps.
aim9bs suck ass, i think i used them as flares against su25s and a10s when i was spading it, try to buddy up with a friend so they can help out if you over extend too much.
imo the only real competition you have are mig21 variants and the ariete (fuck ariete players)
According to Shahak’s experience, I know fully upgraded Mirage 3’s only bad point is being flareless
And I am quite hyped to see spaded IIIC with Magic 1
But for now, at this rate, I am going to be just another MiG hater.
Fight against either J-7D with PL-5B or MiG-21bis which spamming R-60M is hopeless :/
yeah unfortunately if one those gets within 2km of you and youre in a low energy state? your match is over, so you def try to focus these two early game because they will make your life hell late game, the good thing is that once you close the gap and deny them aspect you have all the tools to dogfight them and win (prolonged might be a bit more iffy ngl)
also, fear the a10s, those things will absolutely piss all over your cereals lol
So to have them unlocked several years ago when they faced much worse missiles I would tell you to play them purely in boom and zoom with if you are well placed a little dogfight, however given how the situation has changed since then it is probably no longer possible.
On the other hand, having recently replayed them in simulation, and if I can tell you one thing it’s that they are incredible planes in this mode currently, if you play them on their speed as an interceptor it’s one of the best planes in the Br, I think that in two games you can unlock all your modifications
Yeah, If I tries Boom and zoom tactics in current situation, I guarantees that enemy will just place PL-5B or AIM-9L into my ass. for free kill.
hmmm… And, another opinion about playing it in air-sim instead.
Maybe it is true that old jets with outdated legacy stock loadouts are not suited well for current ARB system :d
just shoot the SPAA with DEFA. probably earns more than bombing anyway given your load
light pillboxes also give good rewards and mission points (perfect for event grind)
and you can equip rocket pods which are useful for this task. Even better if your plane has CCIP. Acts as flare too, esp if your plane has none or has bad flare pattern like kfir canard (mirage 5 based)
I don’t think it will be a good idea if we think Mirage III has only 250 rounds of 30mm ammunition (125 rounds per cannon)
But I agree that shooting them will be easy RP as long as they don’t move.
Naaah… as long as SNEB 23 pods get unlocked in tier 3
I think I don’t need to use rocket pods long enough to spend RP on them.
Also, IIIC don’t have CCIP for any ground ordnance as long as it is primarily built for an interceptor.
Mirage IIIE has CCIP for rocket, but it also comes with a countermeasure pod.
Thanks for the comment anyway.
I think I can give it a try when I go for Kfir C.7.
Yeah I’ve spaded the 3C when it came out and never really played the 3C or 3E since the F1 arrived. I’ve tried going back to the 3C when it went down to 10.0, but the all aspect missiles and constant J-7D spam is painful. For the 3C, there’s nothing more than dogfighting until magic 1s (although the 530 are pretty good at high altitude when the radar gets a decent lock), and while the ammo pools are limited, ground pounding pillbox entrenchments. Those are easily dealt with the 30mm, only 1 or 2 round burst is enough if you aim well, and you can easily get a lot of points that way, although you’ll end up very vulnerable to air threats since you’ll expend all your precious gun ammo. 3E does fair a bit better with the CMs to do a bit of the Boom and Zoom the Mirage 3 used to excel at, and the rocket CCIP helps a lot for ground pounding.
And every enemy plane which has a good IR missile will be drooling when watching my 3C’s engine nozzle.
It would be really great if Magic 1 is not locked behind the tier 4 modification wall.
Theeen I can worry less about grinding 3E’s stock then. XD
Oh btw if youre thinking about the F1C? Avoid for now, the constant f18 premium spam means you automatically get uptiered to 12.7 where the F1C is simply utterly useless, your kit is simply bad, and your flight performance is no longer competitive (the f18 will absolutely clap you in a 1v1, dont even try it).
id wait for 1/2 months for the wallet tourists to fuck off before using it, when youre not in uptier hell its a fun plane to fly
Yeah I find the F1C surprisingly good at its BR. It can defend fairly well against mig23 players by bleeding their speed. My main complain is the lack of thrust, and I do prefer the F1CT simply because of its far better RWR. I can’t imagine it being able to do anything against an F18 with better FM, better kit… when it’s already outclassed by f16s tho.
I really wished we got a newer premium, like an early Mirage 2000, or a modernized F1 (like the morrocan one, with slightly better thrust and MICAs, or the prototype F1 with Mirage 2000 engine)
F1C is indeed perfectly fine at 12.0, lowering it would instantly make it overperform, sadly the good ol premium blackhole adds yet another poor jet to its tally, hopefully in a month the horde fades away because i really like flying the F1C 200 :C
i actually havent had much trouble with f16s, feels like very few people know how to fly it, they keep going vertical, dump all their speed and i one circle them and pop their cockpit open with defas, but the f18 and its fuckarse AoA switch is actually painful because its always looking at you and always has an aspect, its genuinely a pain in the ass.
I always thought about the Idea of trying F1C
But the experience of flying Jaguar IS when it was heavily overtired (when F1C/F-4S were 11.3 while Jaguar IS were 11.0) shunned me enough to not fly F1C.
Quite an awful experience of playing ‘IRCCM carrier which has terrible FM’.
Especially with ‘older’ F1C, which has worse RWR and needs to unlock Magic 2 in tier 4 modification.
At least newer F1CT has a better top-notch level of RWR and stock Magic 2, right?
yeah it does, its still going to face the f18 horde, just avoid for now. Give it a month, maybe two to be safe.
And honestly? An RWR at this BR is kind of useless in most situations, you also lose a gun on the F1CT, which kinda blows, because two defas is actually damn useful at 12.0!
you know its funny because when i got the mirage 3C i actually managed to get a decent amount of kills with the 9bs by flying like an absolute RAT lord.
Respect for flying the Jaguar in ARB too, i cant imagine how painful that was T_T