In the mid jet ranks would love to see the F-86H, A-4M Skyhawk II and F-111D & F-111F. For top tier I’m looking forward to both legacy Hornet variants, F-14D would be of interest too. Finally, A-10C as the US counterpart to the Su-25TM would only make sense.
To add on, there are two prototypes that I feel could fill some pretty big gaps (between A-7s and AV-8B+, and AV-8B+ and whatever goes after): YA-7F Strikefighter, and A-6F Intruder II.
Add on to that the F-106 in-between the F-5E and F-16As, a TT A-4M, as well as maybe a late F-4E and F-4B Shoehorn (as well as maybe an F-8J)
I like those ideas a lot, however the F-106 would be more of like a rank 6 than a rank 7/8, would maybe be better between the F-104s and F-5E. With Phantoms there’s so much to add that I didn’t mention them, but you could have the F-4B between the F-8E and F-4J, the F-4D between the C & E, as well as splitting the E between an early (Vietnam war) spec and a late (ANG service) spec. Oh and foldering an F-4N under the F-4J (would basically be a TT F-4S, maybe with 9L’s to further differentiate it from the rest)
Honestly, I’ve always kinda seen the F-4D and F-4N as premium, squadron, or event vehicle material, just due to them both serving from the 60s all the way through to the late 80s and early 90s.
A TT F-4S late with AIM-9L and AIM-7F/M in-between the F-14A and F-4J could work (foldered), but this would also introduce the conundrum of the F-14A early lacking AIM-9L.
With the F-4E late, we could keep the current F-4E as is, and then the late one would get AIM-9L, AIM-7F, Pave Spike/Pave Tack, and LGBs (as well as Maverick Ds).
F-4D in folder with F-4E because early 70’s armament like F-4E Block 53 from USA tech tree but external gun pod, different targeting pod, no leading-edge slats under the Agile Eagle program, different radar (AN/APQ-109) and F-4C engine (General Electric J79-GE-15)
F-4J move to early rank 8 before F-14A Early, increase lock range of AIM-7F to 80km and expand max BR to 11.7
F-4S Late could be 12.0 but not sure located before or after F-14A Early
F-4N in folder with F-4S at 12.0 or 12.3 BR, armament mix F-4J & F-4S (premium) and carry AIM-9L & AIM-9M but radar from F-4B (AN/APQ-72 radar) and smokeless engine (Pratt & Whitney J79-GE-8B).
For F-4E (1984) (ANG service) seperate from F-4E, equipped AN/AVQ-26 Pave Tack electro-optical targeting pod, would be BR 11.7 (Air AB, Air RB & Air SB) & 12.0 (Ground RB) fill gap between F-4E and F-15A
I hope gajin add AIM-9M & AIM-9M-8 on F-14B with max BR to 12.3 in september
F-14A late in folder with F-14A Early or F-14B but at 12.3 BR, a “bombcat” upgraded like F-14B but light airframe and it has worse engine (Pratt & Whitney TF30-P-414A)
Ah yes, F-4N without PD radar, ARH missiles and bomb truck performance at 12.0/12.3… I’m sure this will be absolutely fine… Nothing wrong with that. Quick edit
I only now saw you wrote “Pratt & Whitney J79-GE-8B”. Manufacturer is General Electric, not P&W
F-4D though would make a decent 10.7 jet and a Phantom alternative (read as different gameplay) to F-5E. AIM-9Js, 7E-2s and countermeasure dispensers.
But F-4J and F-4S going higher in BR? That’s a no from me. Even giving them better missiles won’t make automatically make them better at higher BRs…
Now, back to topic.
I personally expect to see Hornet added some time this year. Early production 18A is long overdue (Sparrow only) and now that ARH missiles were added, 18A+ or even 18C would make more sense.
Jets like F-86H and FJ-3M also should have been added long time ago.
F-4D great fighter aircraft 10.7 BR (Air AB & Air RB) and 10.3 BR (Air SB) but BR 11.0 for ground RB same F-4E from USAF. Air-to-Air Missile like F-4E but not change engine, no leading-edge slat, no intenal cannon (gun pod like F-4C) and AN/APQ-109 radar inferior to AN/APQ-120
I guess medium-range Air-to-Air Missile & AIM-9H on F-4N like F-4S from premium tree but retain AN/APQ-72 Radar, smokeless engine (General Electric J79-GE-8B) and no leading-edge slat wings
F-4N armed all-aspect IR AAM ?
F/A-18A armament mix 80’s & 1990
F/A-18A+ close to F/A-18C because upgraded avionics, radar and armament to F/A-18C 90’s standard but airframe like F/A-18A and retain General Electric F404-GE-400 engine
Located before F3H Demon on USN fighter line or in folder with A-4B & FJ-4B at strike aircraft line ?
Not sure, but there is a chance. I still however believe that F-4N would be redundant (I wouldn’t say useless but it’s not far from that either).
Even with the things you mentioned, it wouldn’t qualify it for uptiers. AIM-9H (to my understanding) is 9G with solid state electronics and higher track rate. F-4J already has AIM-7F so…
F-14A is already at 11.7 (one step higher) and offers better maneuverability and more A2A ordnance capability. Adding another Phantom with slightly better missiles just wouldn’t cut it.
My two cents on the take.
That’s essentially what 18A+ is. Avionics from 18C but retains “hardware” of 18A (no F404 EPE)
That’s good question…
FJ-4B was more of fighter-bomber (I’d dare say Navy equivalent of F-86H) compared to FJ-3M. I think FJ-3M would definitely fit more in Navy fighter line.
After taking a look in the tech tree, FJ-3M would be perfect 9.0 candidate before F3H Demon.
At the BR of F-4S? Hell no
Did you even read what I said in the very first post I quoted you?
Ah yes, F-4N without PD radar, ARH missiles and bomb truck performance at 12.0/12.3…
Disregarding the ARH missiles and my sarcasm at the end, without PD at that high tier, F-4N (with 9H or even 9L and 7F or 7M) would be DOA simply because of radar that was carried over from F-4B
I personally don’t think it’s really worth adding.
F-4B could be another 10.7 or 11.0 (alongside F-4E if latter) if given E-2DF (not sure if Navy used it) and 9Gs