And you guys also mentioned Battle Rating 12.7 for Aviation, it seems to me that it is no exaggeration to say that the current air BR should be increased to 13.3, and the ground BR should likewise continue to increase to 12.7 or even higher to solve the problem.
Has any of the developers really considered it reasonable for ariete amv to be in the same BR as lerpard2 a7v?
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This is honestly probably what they want. If people get tired of making bug reports to fix this nonsense, then they don’t have to balance their game.
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well then we stop playing
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The community literally gave gaijin a books worth of sources, 10 for the leclerc’s reload, the abrams armour list was endless along with the leopards and yet it still gets denied… Please explain to me why anyone would bother bug reporting anything when something so blatant gets denied.
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Yes, but that is tiny minority of the community. In the past few days I’ve seen countless new accounts/players with the M1A1 HC “Click-Bait” who have no idea that it doesn’t have the upgraded armor M1A1 HC variants should have. It’s a small part of the community that actually knows anything regarding this issue, most players either don’t know or don’t care, new players especially.
1988 Washington post story about the DU being added to the Abrams
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1988/03/15/tougher-tank-armor-developed-by-pentagon/82ced69e-60e6-4279-a31d-2ff9cae33e1f/
Popular Mechanics from Jan 2023 Talking about having the DU armor removed off the tanks that are being sent to Ukraine
Another website Military Today going over the information about the upgraded DU armor on the M1A2
The US Army website saying the DU armor has been in production since 1988 ( Hull )
https://odin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG/Asset/M1A1_Abrams_American_Main_Battle_Tank_
The US Army Website about the M1A2 Sep Getting upgraded DU armor ( Hull )
https://odin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG/Asset/739fc6eb75d491d6704b7f265b2704b9
Dont tell me the production abrams didnt have reinforcement of DU when theres proof straight from the army and multiple other sources that have done reports on the abrams.
If you just dont want to provide a fair and balanced MBT experience and want the Abrams to blow up in one shot for what ever reason then just come out and say it. There is pleanty of evidence you are choosing to ignore for only reasons you wont just tell us. Its always well talk about it later, heres a faster reload and we will talk about the armor later. You ether prove your are not showing bias and balance the game for everyone or just tell everyone that you will keep the mbts of the American tech tree subpar to be blown up as you have bias against the American tech tree. People have been arguing over the armor since at least 2018 about the abrams and nothing has been done to fix it other than faster loading but that doesnt help survivability which IS THE MAIN PROBLEM
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honestly dont waste your time it wont get fixed no matter what
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then there is no reason to play mbts in the American tech tree. all the premium tanks being sold is pure money grab.
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http://fofanov.armor.kiev.ua/Tanks/EQP/kontakt5.html
Ukraine says otherwise. What is interesting is that according to Ukraine K-5 and relict have wrong numbers.
was never planning to get the M1A2 extra fat V2 without any armor anyway i rather use my SEPv1
thats what i stopped at too but doesnt make sense to even play that since i dont put the sep armor on and its not a fun time to play even like that. I shot a 2S38 twice in the turret and it just turned and killed me. the first round should have disabled the turret. I find myself wanted to play US less and less do to pure frustration
True, SEPv3 might be worth it because of the proven armor test but knowing gaijin, it won’t be any difference other than APS.
More i think about the abrams armor justification, less it makes sense.
Serial prodicton T-80Us never had thermals, those came with T-80UM after 1991.
F-16AJ was never serially produced.
Nor was the YAK-141 nor Mirage 4K.
Why is the serial productionargument a thing?
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Because.
Real, as I love fighting R-27s, F-16s, MiG-29s in the rusty MiG-21s or the flying brick F-4, 4th generation should be moved to 12.3 or 12.7, since it is not fair that airplanes of 2nd generation fight against 4th generation aircraft, the MiG-23 is doubtful, but it is a third generation aircraft, and if it performs somewhat well in 12.0 - 12.3, I would recommend that they review whether to separate the 2nd generation aircraft by raising the 4th to 12.3 or more (all of them), or in another case, lower the 2nd generation to 10.7, so that the 2nd generation fight against the 3rd generation, not against the 4th generation.
We found the spall liners of vt4 in real life, but we couldn’t find the ones in the game
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Now imagine the pain when Gaijin just removes a couple hundred mm of KE protection from the Merkava 4’s ERA.
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It’s just their way of trying to justify a change, realistically they should have left the reload alone and just give the abrams its armour.
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Gaijin, just so we’re clear.
Your policy of ignoring the players and their sources and reports, and failing to provide your own sources to claims the community deems outlandish, is effectively an encouragement to post “classified materials” (which I believe are in your interest anyway).
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So despite’s the sources stating the M1 Abrams has DU stored in the hull you guys still don’t belive that there’s DU in the hull? Huh???