Another spaa nerf? why gaijin

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so sure. remove all AP capabilities of spaa’s. make them unwanted. gaijin could compensate this by lowering the br’s of these vehicles. lets turn the falcon into a 7.3 vehicle. same as the m163. except the falcon has no armor, mediocre speed, no radar. it only has stabilization and 53mm of penetration. let it fight lower tiers. it cant deal with a tiger any more, but all those t-34’s, panthers, shermans, they will surely welcome an autocannon spaa with just enough pen to turn their sides into swiss cheese.

the wz305 without AP capabilities would do well at 5.7 cause its HE shells only have 11 penetration. cant do anything with it. but the proxy HE will make anything that flies think twice.

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AMX30 DCA IS nearly non-functional as an AA. its radar is so bad that you can visibly see the targeting box wobble completely off the target its tracking at 1.5km. Its easily the worst radar i’ve ever seen in this game. its better to just manually aim.

The falcon isn’t functional as an AT platform without apds. No one has used it for a dedicated AA in a long, long time. It used to be 7.3 a long time ago and has been upteired and nerfed to its current position.

If they were removing the apds rounds, both should have dropped to 7.3 instantly and rebalance from there. Keeping them at 8.x is a joke.

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You don’t have to perform a flanking maneuver to get a flank shot.

Enemy MBT comes over a hill and gets tracked, and momentum turns it. Before MBT can recover, follow-up shots hit the flank.

You did ask “how” in your previous post and this is one “how”.

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another NERF that gaijin introduced about 2-3 years ago. the radar wobble. because CAS was complaining they were hit too often! i remember when i just unlocked the zsu 23-4, that it aimed quite well. then one day, i noticed the radar wobbling. it was disgusting! its effectiveness literally halfed, to my idea. i really couldnt hit stuff as easily anymore.

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so you charge over a hill perfectly side on to a pantsir in a nato mbt lmao. that is actually some self reported skill issue

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If you have to set up an extreme case scenario for how an spaa can fight a tank, you are missing the point. Just as likely that tank isn’t moving fast enough to turn it and the AA can’t pen. Or the tank crests the hill and shoots the AA from hull down. There are almost no AA in the game with 1+kdrs vs tanks. No matter how much you complain, they aren’t effective. Making them even worse isn’t productive.

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Read. It. Again.

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you read it again. have you even played pantsir btw? you would know the guns rock the whole vehicle making it completely trash for flanking or even shooting at ground targets at all

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You make it sound like tanks you drive have never been tracked. Ever. Must be awesome to be you.

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not by pantsirs cos i have more than 2 braincells lmao. you dont even have a single mbt yet talking about top tier/pantsirs? sit the fk down lil bro

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Arcade player*

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The rafale is amazing and has good missiles and good CAS not like the slow AGMs that get hits. But coming from 2 Russian main bootlickers i expect nothing else but having to dig deep and creep on my stats pathetic lol

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I would love if spaa could go down to their effective anti-air brs.

But some has abt-tank abilities that are above their anti-air abilities so people just play them as tds.

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You are in denial, and deflecting. By the way, the Centurion Mk. 10 IS a main battle tank. So is the Vickers. If you’re gonna look up my account at least do a thorough job.

Like I said, must be awesome to be you.

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I wasn’t suggesting it happens all the time, or even that it is a common occurrence.

I was answering the question as to how a gun with 70mm pen can destroy a MBT. I showed one example on HOW that might happen.

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Okay

Almost everyone will disagree with you in the current case.
Because
1- It gets APDS REMOVED
2- but BR WILL NOT CHANGE
3- AND WILL STILL SHARES SAME BR with Gephad, which still retains APDS.

If Gaijin buffs down the BR in the same change, maybe I could agree with you.
But not now.
For now, this is nothing more than another British tax because of hatred from the Great Game.

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Whether the BR changes or not I’m going to play it.
If it doesn’t change, it will due to statistics.
If it does change, I’m using it where I want it to be anyway.

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I think justifying Gaijin’s blunder because of your intention of playing is a bad move, I think.

There are possiblity of ‘Completely neglected because of a few statistics’ remains.

Look at Vampire FB.5 or R2Y2, which is inferior in almost all aspects compared to F-86A, but hasn’t taken care of for years.

I might be fine if Gaijin buffs BR when removing APDS in the same patch.
But I am not fine if Gaijin just removes APDS but doesn’t touch BR at all.
Especially, as I claimed earlier, Gephad with APDS still shares the same BR.

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Removing APDS is not a blunder, it’s what I’ve been demanding for years.
And people have called for it to be lowered in BR before I could post on the topic.

So no one’s justifying any “blunder”.

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No no no no no, no moving goalpost on my watch.
I didn’t tell you that ‘Removing APDS itself is a blunder’

I told you that ‘I am fine if they buff the BR in the same update’

Yes, because it will be a good way of filling the air gap.

No, you are justifying Gaijin’s blunder that they are nerfing the SPAA first for ‘unpromising, potential’ buff in ‘future’

BTW, a bit off topic, did you read my reply, which I wrote to you at the copy-paste topic? I thought you replys on it, but getting neglected was quite unexpected.

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