Before that could you just add the air spawn back?
Ho-Ri (btw, how can there be a production variant if they never even built a prototype?), Panther F and F-16AJ meanwhile
All of these have replacements/alternatives and the Panther F(ake) wasn’t even necessary in the first place.
Give it back its airspawn and move it back to its original BR of 7.0 I wont settle for anything less
And to be honest, a probably change on its BR may be needed, the F-86, if I’m not wrong, at 8.3 offer a best performance in any roles. About this subject, we may need to move a BR reduction on the R2Y2s’ series.
They have said the keel has to have been laid down. So far they’ve stuck to that.
La-174, you mean, which hasn’t been offered under any circumstances in over 7 years, so I’d say it’s pretty much gone for good, it’s not the Maus situation, which uniquely comes back every year, so it’s just in a class of its own for how you earn it not really “gone”. Add in the Chinese PT-76, and HMS Churchill to the tech tree “disappeared” list. Also a few Russian and Japanese CBT variants they decided they just had too many of at first and some Italian and French planes in the original CBT trees before they got their own.
The four reasons for tech tree removal have been:
- beginner vehicle that sucks to play;
- something that didn’t exist and now we have something better than the original gap-filler to offer;
- something we just had too many of when we launched this; and
- tree splitting.
In the first case they give you a chance to earn it later, for everything except the Churchill, which I thought was really disappointing at the time. In the latter cases they haven’t for the others in many years. And it’s hard to make a case for “bring back the R2Y2 sometimes” that wouldn’t equally apply to, say, the British Dewoitines (to pick one example).
Edit: I will say that giving everyone three months notice here was very fair, I thought. If you ARE determined you are going to remove a vehicle now, this was the right way to do it.
Trialled is quite different to tested.
Additionally all the parts of the yak were made (radar, munitions etc). And would have been put on the airframe had a certain significant event not occurred.
I think the removal of the Coelian, while it didn’t fully exist, is kinda BS, as a lot of its parts were already existing.
Probably goes back to the production schedule that mentioned 5 incomplete hulls were supposed to be ready in August 1945. That said they should really replace the Ho-Ri in the TT with the actual finalized design. Also, no discussion on vehicles of dubious nature can be complete without mentioning the Ostwind II.
Especially considering the possibility that the Ostwind II that replaced it may also have been “paper”
I was looking for this response since everything pass this is just nonsense discussion, this is why I hate the new forums, we all knew in the old forums that the R2Y2 were gonna be removed one day, all the old suggestions and discussions were wiped out and now apparently nobody knew that this was coming when we have been saying to get those suggested airplanes so they can remove the paper R2Y2s, they are finally getting removed so let’s see what they add in their place
It would make sense to do it like that. Too much sense for gaijin to even consider. Most games these days bring back older cosmetics, weapons, ect… at some point and its always a huge hit in their respective communities. I just dont understand why gaijin doesnt do things like that.
There was no finalized design of the Ho-Ri though, they built a wooden mock-up and the gun.
It is unknown if the hulls that they ordered to be built actually did get built, but even if they did, there no prototype are known to exist.
So really, both the prototype and the production are fabrications, just the prototype is at least based on something that did exist (in form of a wooden mock-up, which looking at the Coelian isn’t enough to be in the game according to gaijin themselves)
They’ll either add nothing or another copy paste jet via Thailand
The Ki-201 was a prototype design number assigned to the project that - originally was an attempt to modify the Me 262A design to Japanese production methods.
This ended up not happening, because the attempted delivery of Me 262 samples and airframes was sunk in February 1945. In the final days of the Third Reich, another submarine shipment was sent towards Japan carrying a lot of aircraft including Me 163 and Me 262, but as Germany surrendered, this submarine and its crew also promptly surrendered. Japan never got their hands on a Me 262 so I can’t quite understand why you’re claiming the Ki-201 was a “designation” for the Me 262, much less a specific variant like the A-2a Sturmvogel.
Because of the lack of a German Me 262 to study and adapt to Japanese manufacturing methods and standards, the Ki-201 team started designing the aircraft themselves. Basic drawings were completed and work was started on a wooden mock-up, but more detailed manufacturing plans were never started as the war ended.
Now, if we were to extend WW2 in the Pacific in an imaginary scenario long enough that the Japanese could finish the Ki 201, what do you think that plane would be more like?
Would it be an actual Me 262 designated as Ki-201 as you claim, or would it be more according to the Japanese plans for the aircraft, as influenced by the requirements the Japanese had for the aircraft?
To me, the answer is clear: The plane designated as Ki-201 would not be a license-produced Me 262, but rather it would be what the design team at Nakajima came up with it.
So my conclusion is that clearly, clearly the jet design programs of Japan were massively influenced by German jet designs and especially when it comes to the engines - but neither the Kikka nor the Ki-201 Karyu should be described as “Japanese Me 262”.
Well they added the Ho 229 because it looks awesome, so I don’t see any valid reason why the J7W2 Shinden-Kai shouldn’t be added. Because it, too, looks awesome.
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The Ki-98 would be so cool just because it has the 37 mm Ho-204 cannon.
I need more Ho-204 in my life.
At least throw them a parting gift by lowering their battle rating or giving them the airspawn back.
Couldn’t agree more! Given the current state of the game, removing these 3 unique planes is a hypocritical and pointless decision.
The successor attackers are somehow placed on the army fighters line despite not being fighters or land aircraft.