That I agree but there should be limit on something that not entirely German made
And when I say this, I mean not just German but should apply for any vehicle from any TT.
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Its one of those convoluted ones without direct sources I reckon mate.
Thats the one! but aye that seems a tad silly no? like japan is bare bones at that BR as well but putting a chinese MBT at top tier cause of the sub trees would be a bit ridiculous.
The hawker hunter in their tree alone is a joke its one of the better ones and at a lower BR than others xD
The spitfire kinda makes sense same as theres US planes everywhere. As for the meteor im kinda reserved I like it being in the british tree, ofc its in isreal but they ahd literally no other choice at the time, as for france it wasnt necessary at all so yeah he is contradicting himself.
And the problem is where in this?
i take it you never played war thunder and looked at interactions between UK and germany.
Or US and UK and so on. Nation mains splitting in the community in 2 is literaly daily business
in that regard show me Uks meta aircraft with FNF armament, OR germanys, or italys.
it realy feels like you are losing the ability to read
You do contradict yourself with it.
They can be removed as easily as implemented people just act like it cant.
Or they can entirely change how these planes work.
Whole game is essentially subject to change
i mean, to me it would sound the same as british hunters and the german one.
The difference is minimal with countermeasures and so on.
But its made in to a big matter. Once again where do we draw the line. Why does the VT4 lacking APS make it undesirable. But UK going crazy about countermeasures
They can be removed as easily as implemented people just act like it cant.
Or they can entirely change how these planes work
Then lets make a massive protest and review bomb Gaijin to remove the Leopard 2s from the French TTs. Oh wait you can’t and why? You need enough people to support this first and secondly if not enough people have a issue with it then Gaijin wont change something that isn’t broken.
Pushing Gaijin to remove a paid model is hard within itself, then you’ll have people arguing against it as it puts newer players to a disadvantage as they cannot obtain it now making the new to old player disparity significantly larger than it already is.
Removing vehicles like the Leopard 2s is a complex matter which needs to be thoroughly discussed but this isn’t the main topic - the main topic being the AMX-30 S (I do take blame for derailing the conversation a bit as well lol).
I’ll be blunt with you, possibility means absolute sh*t in War Thunder and is a INCREDIBLY weak argument hence why I’ve ignored it, possibly is more of a fallacy hopping that Gaijin will actually add it, you need a large amount of support and momentum to change a possibility to happening or happened.
How it feels arguing against you so far
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It can’t, it doesn’t even meet suggestion requirements apparently lol
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talking to yourself?
you are fighting the whole matter, we brought it just out there
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I’d assume the AMX-30 S does meet the suggestion requirements as it does undoubtedly have German parts? Mind telling me why, I’m actually clueless on suggestion requirements tbf.
we have it on record from Smin we should do a thread here, cause under the forum rules its not allowed in the suggestion section.
But it doesnt stop its possibility
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Okay let me say this, until the most recent hunter F6 engine fix, the hunter F58 had
- RWR
- counter measures
- better missiles (still does)
- Better Thrust to weight (now its about equal)
- has AGM stand off ground strike capabilities
all of that while at the same BR?
as well as having I believe but could be wrong hence why its not listed better avionics.
Chinese and Japanese history? Its like why bother with some trees now as you can have the same experience with say germany as you can france, or sweden, or italy.
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implemeted vehicles cant get a suggestion thread. if its implemented in the game already, even in another tree no new suggestion for it can be made apparantly.
Its one of these niche cases like the KH-38MT where we cant make a bug report
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yeah if they are saying it doesnt meet the suggestions criterium then its a pretty closed case mate.
Why dont we fight for the Leopard 1A2, 1A3 and 1A4 the A3 and A4 are better than the AMX30s I believe.
thats another matter, br compression sucking is normal
you say that like germany had a good history, we werent better
Probably.
The timing of this suggestion is impeccable too, with the announcement of the Dutch 2A4 for France.
Probably had something to do with that.
Either way -1 as there’s no need for a premium at that br, there’s much better options for Germany.
No, it is based on TH 800, it is not the same vehicle.
Just like CLASS 1 is based on TH 400.
The timing of this suggestion is impeccable too, with the announcement of the Dutch 2A4 for France
I was reading and initially thought they were adding a prototype Leclerc and was hyped until they dropped the smelly “Leopard 2” on me, genuinely diabolical behaviour on Gaijins end and hopefully they change this.
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Remember too, this was added wayy before the swiss tree was even anounced think that too is why folks were so up in arms about it.
No I mean with each other… as far as I’ve seen it runs deep even until recently.
Ah no, we already had this going for a while, even before a suggestion.
But it got denied, we wrote Smin then he said he will look into it after his vacation.
Followed by us reaquring the suggestion from the mods.
Its in the works since quite some time.
just saying nobody of us demanded it to be a premium.
It can be tech tree, event, or squadron for all we care
they are adding a prototype leclerc to the tech tree
They said they wanted to add a Leclerc with a nerfed round for the high tier prem for france.
then claimed there was no lineup for it
this means the prototype Leclerc will be 12.0
As they stated that the 11.7 nerfed one for a prem cant be added due to no lineup.
Thats their argument for using the 2a4 as a prem.
If the proto leclerc is 11.0 /11.3 it means even more blatantly that gaijin is lying about the possibility of the nerfed one at 11.7 and just used copy and paste
Why the obsession with the 30 super though? not to be crude but theres a plethora of actual cool as hell german MBTs missing before taking an amx30 and slamming it in there, premium ,event whatever.
(I think an event AMX30 super for germany would cause a massive backlash as is)
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