It doesn’t “need” to be guided in, it has radar built in, it can be radar guided to increase its range from further than 20km out which is the main argument, and hey since you want it to have its 60-80km range lets counter the argument, just add a trailer like they added to many of these hmvees, strykers etc, etc, ez pz fixed. We already have a trailered vehicle in the game so boom.
Its just the classic Russain main mentality, something good coming for another nation (USA, Sweden, Germany, France, Italy maybe Isreal/Japan)? Nah cant have that.
It has to be radar locked to fire. So you need a radar. Also how would it find planes without a radar.
Its sight would have to keep up with low flying planes. Not even mentioning multi pathing which would make low flying targets invincible.
USA mains do the exact same thing. Further, I dont want the AMRAAM but I dont deny that USA needs a new SPAA. The AMRAAM is not the solution.
It has a radar inside the missile, and since on a plane it has to be communicated with there is no reason to suggest that there wasn’t an in-vehicle method of communicating with the missiles. You’re splitting hairs.
Not neccesarily. Like I said in my previous comment, AIM120 can be fired in “boresight” mode.
AFAIK the ground launched AMRAAM is identical to the airborne one, so this mode should be available to the SPAA. Hence, no radar needed.
Just like the LAV-AD player does - with Mk1 Eyeball. Obviously this isn’t as good as search radar, but still not a valid reason for why we can’t have it.
To make myself clear, I think it would be preferable to add AMRAAM SPAA with the radar trailer. I’m just saying that, if Gaijin refuses to do so, the radar-less option would also be acceptable.
What is your suggestion?
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I cant even understand what your saying, at least Apollo makes sense. As for Apollo can we have a source on the ‘boresight’ mode?
How is the AMRAAM going to be able to see aircraft 12+ km away?
I still think that the MML even with the AIM-9X would be more suitable. As for the range the Air Force says over 10 miles and the Navy says its classified so I cant share more.
The missile has an active radar seeker built into it. That’s how.
You and Speclist both make no sense to me anymore. Can we got more people like Apollo who add something to the argument? I understand how ARH works. You still need to lock without it unless Apollo’s ‘boresight’ is real and im mistaken.
Ok just like how for example, the MIM-72E has an IR seeker that can be thrown off by flares because it detects the first thing it sees (dont get lost here), the AIM-120 would act the same, but with a radar target. You fire it in the direction it sees a target it hits or misses. Like talking to a 5 year old at this point
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why not another type 93
Yeah but get this IR and radar are different! I know its hard to understand but they are. Which means they don’t work the exact same way! Post a declassified source about bore sight and I will be convinced.
https://www.navair.navy.mil/product/AMRAAM
Once the missile closes on a target, its active radar guides it to intercept. It does not need to have a radar lock beforehand it can lock onto whatever is infront of it
Yeah that has nothing to do with missile lock. Eg. firing from SPAA. Thats how all ARH missiles work.
then explain how it would not work. how it would never see whats infront of it fired out of a trailer compared to an aircraft
It needs a radar lock to fire thats it. Unless you can provide proof that the missile can guide itself with no external radar before leaving the rail then it cant work without a trailer.
So the missile doesnt have an active radar seeker in it
It has a tracking radar not a search radar. It can home onto targets but not find new ones.
“It incorporates active radar with an inertial reference unit and micro-computer system, which makes the missile less dependent upon the fire-control system of the aircraft.”
Huh contradicts this but whatever carry on
All that means is that it has an onboard radar. Does not mean it can find new targets.
This part is true it is less dependent then SARH missiles which don’t have onboard radars.