thats not how that works???
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That’s not how War Thunder works.
lol sorry, reading this made me laugh. heh
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I’ve seen you mention this before and I think I should add to everyone that comes across this thread that these values come directly from Wikipedia.
Wikipedia says that the value come from “Firepower: A History of the American Heavy Tank”, by Richard Pearce Hunnicutt, but the values stated in Wikipedia don’t exactly match those in the book. For example, Wikipedia says 102-203 mm thickness on the hull front, but the book says 70-102 mm.
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The gun shield and do you mind telling that source?
As stated in the original reply, it is “Firepower: A History of the American Heavy Tank”.
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The spall shield is missing some armor if i’m not mistaken, it should be at least 25.4mm RHA instead of 20mm CHA, the hull front “beak” should also be thicker, but this one only works if it’s made of volumetric armor.
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It’s hard to know since there is no source that explicitly states the armor thickness or even armor type on the spall shield. We simply know that it is there.
Well, that’s disappointing, but shouldn’t the gun shield maximum thickness be 11 inches (279,4mm)? If the spall shield is only 20mm it doesn’t match with the given number, and is there any american made spall shield with that thickness irl? Shouldn’t it be exactly 1 inch?
We already know that the gun shield is 203mm thick and the area around the gun is 254mm thick, we just need a 25,4mm spall shield to match 11 inches. M26 Pershing spall shield is 25.4mm in game which is 1 inch and afaik correct.
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Here’s the puzzling part.
We know that the majority of the gun shield itself is 203 mm thick, which matches the 8 inches on documents. This clearly doesn’t take into account the spall shield, otherwise documents would say 9 inches, as that part of the mantlet itself has been physically measured to be 203 mm thick.
So now, how come that the 11 inch measurement now takes into account the spall shield when previous measurements don’t?
(Not to mention that Hunnicutt alone can’t work for a bug report. It is a secondary source and at least two secondary sources are needed for bug reports.)
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Wasn’t the initial specification laid out with OCM 25117 suggesting a heavy tank having an effective frontal armor thickness of 9 inches (228,6 mm) for the hull front and turret front?
The hull armor already offers basis armor equivalency of 228,6mm, which was the requirement. While the gun shield is correctly at 8 inches, it doesn’t match with the required 228,6mm of basis armor requirement on the frontal projection, unless you take the 25,4mm spall shield into account which fits perfectly.
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Idk, I’ve never seen that document.
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I’ve seen pictures of the T29 tanks and their mantled sure doesn’t look like 203mm thick.
Measured by “The Chieftain” himself.
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where do you even get that???
This wonderful thing called…
“The Internet”.
Thanks wise guy
Also what is the official amount of armor. Most sites like tank encyclopedia says its mantlet is 203- 305mm thick.
305 mm is around the edges, like how it is in game.
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