What I said was I am “not in support of giving the Ra’am 229s and not the F-15E”
Ie. I think that if they give the Ra’am the stronger engines, they should give them to the F-15E also.
So basically exactly what you said.
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What’s the point the Dev think so high and mighty of them selves that won’t even respond to use lowly presents
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Why are we trying to gate keep the engines from F15E
Holding the engines hostage demanding something in return??
It’s 2 identical planes that 1 carry’s garbage AGM 65 mavricks that miss the target or do no damage 70% of the time
Why are ground attack munitions affecting the flight performance of a plane I have never seen this done before they either never added the munitions to that aircraft (example Grom 1) or just moved it to a higher BR.!
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I really don’t like the way they dealt with this…
Surely Gaijin could’ve foreseen everything to do with the F-15E/I. If their main reason for the American Strike Eagle not having its 229 engines are “because you have AGM-65Ds and Israel doesn’t”, wouldn’t the very obvious solution pre-dev server release would have been to model and implement a domestically produced Israeli equivalent? And failing that, the airframes are the exact same, it technically can carry Mavericks too and would not be a bad idea as a stopgap measure until such a time when Israeli weapons are modelled for implementation. It would not be the first time an aircraft got a weapon swapped/later added for it.
Alas, I have full confidence in Gaijin to prioritise monetary incentives relating to grinding a whole new nation for exactly the same plane you could have had in another tech tree over player satisfaction any day. I am not surprised, not even disappointed. This is simply Gaijin doing Gaijin again. Then they are surprised when a player or two takes illegal liberties and releases confidential military documents relating to vehicles/weapons incorrectly implemented (read: nerfed) in-game. Do not create the environment where people have to do that and you don’t have to worry about it.That’s all I will say about that but I’m not holding my breath for them taking this further when the crux of their argument is being held by a document saying “well actually it can use -220 OR -229 engines” and then uses that to claim balance like there’s not a whole Israeli jet with it that received it after the USAF did.
Oh, I specifically liked the part when the F-15E implemented in-game has weapon systems and capabilities an F-15E with upgraded F100-PW-229 engines would have but… okay. Sure, in the name of balance guys it’s fine now let’s return to normalcy. /s
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And second one have more CMs
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Boycott all f-15’s. Dont grind them, dont fly them.
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Wait F15 I gets more CM?
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Yes, it does gets additional 120cm
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Oh that’s fair better engines and more counter measures definitely
balance quoted from the lead Dev
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This is a problematic view for the game overall, it’s not Just an export, the Ra’am was developed to give Israel the same capabilities as the Americans with their strike eagle, however this was achieved through the implementation of domestic weaponry to reduce the reliance on the US for guided, long range weaponry. While I can see the desire to have the original exporter have the best model of a vehicle, this logic has long since disappeared (as seen with the Strv-122s in relation to other leopard 2s) and wouldn’t apply to the Ra’am anyway.
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In fact the later modifications of the Ra’am are arguably better than F-15Es of the same generation since they include all of the same MLU packages alongside a domestic Israeli ECM/EWS alonside a Datalink antenna (situated in the iconic dome behind the cockpit) which was modified onto the Ra’am when it received the APG-82(V)1 AESA radar, imho this brings it above the current EW standards of the American F-15E and make it the best Strike Eagle in service today.
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Not really. The I would be a little better in air while the E would be significantly better in ground.
Also for the 15I I think the popeye would mean no A2A missiles on the wing pylons.
So the 15E would be considerably better at multirole even if the 15I got popeye.
Debatable.
Israel get an/apg82 later, than US.
Also, if youre comparing with original US 15E from 1990’s, yes, modern Israel one will be better. But US also modified Eagles multiple times. Theyre got datalink and not only.
I don’t quite see what you’re angling for here, I am not comparing the 90s F-15E, i am comparing the modern spec F-15E with an F-15I of the same year, in which the Ra’am is likely superior due to the F-15I due to the heavy emphasis of Elbit and IMI modifications, they are leaders in ECM tech and providing consistent upgrades to the Ra’am to the same extent that BAE and their EPAWSS or Northrop with the AN/ALQ-135 TEWS (which is being phased out IIRC) on the American ones, Regardless I am not campaigning for the supremacy of the Ra’am, I would prefer them to be equal or On-par until the addition of more in depth modelling of Avionics and EW.
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Ah ok that makes sense. I originally read it as though you wanted neither to get the 229 engines.
I do wonder, when the game eventually evolves towards AESA’s, do you think they will just swap out the radar’s on existing aircraft, or are we likely just going to end up with a load of radar swapped copy pastes being added?
But if they add the pw 229s to the f15e shouldn’t they add spice atgms to the israeli?
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Hopefully since there isn’t just a New Ra’am, they were periodically modified up to the standard it is today, in a fashion that it could just be added as a modification or similar style to the addon armour/mods on the top tier russian MBTs, Although it being gaijin they will most likely just split it into 3 variants with miniscule differences just to prolong the grind, same applies for literally every aircraft in game that can be modified with AESA/New avionics
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