Amagi or Mutsu?

Hey guys, currently, I am enjoying the Japanese battleship Fuso. As far as I know, it has the most crews out of all these Japanese battleships, and the secondary batteries are enjoyable to use (unlike certain French battleships) with good velocity.

I have seen nothing but praises for the 410mm guns, and I am looking to build my 7.0 battleship loadout with these ships. The question is, which to get first and what characteristize these ships?

Mutsu, Ise, Fuso at a exercise, 1940s. Menacing beasts.
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Thanks!

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I recently finished the Japanese tree as I’d skipped it for years not liking torpedoes. Obviously it’s going to take a lot longer to get to the Amagi with your current research situation, so there is that to consider.

They are both very good, with the major difference being the extra guns on the Amagi. The Amagi has a larger crew and more speed, but weaker armor. However, they both stand up to fire pretty well. Secondary armament is roughly equal and neither is going to shoot down any aircraft.

The Mutsu does have torpedoes, but they aren’t that good.

All things being equal, I like the Amagi a bit better just for the extra guns, but you’ll be happy with either one.

They are both good. I have barely any battles with Amagi yet so I can only recomend Mutsu. Generaly speaking people say Amagi is less survivable.

Also lil off topic. Where is the bloody recon plane modification on IJN Amagi ?? Give me my float plane!
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How vulnerable are they to the Scharnhorst/ammo racking in general?

I’ve recently taken out the French premium battleship and have been ammoracked endlessly.

Much less so than the French ships. I have had magazine detonations, but they are MUCH rarer and you can hold your own against Scharnhorsts if you can aim. The penetration of the tier 1 AP is really high, and extremely high on the tier 4 AP.

I’ve detonated shell rooms and magazines on Scharnhorsts. It’s not easy of course, but much easier than with most ships. It’s easy to knock out a turret or two, and the 24 second reload also makes it a much fairer fight.

Amangus.

Can you not use the floatplane on Amagi?
Based. Maybe next they’ll actually update the model to remove the stupid thing.

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Well no. The float plane is just visual rn. I dont want them to remove it. Just make it functional modification.

They’re likely to remove it, or at least leave it nonfunctional. Amagi was designed, built, and scrapped years before the first catapults even entered service with the IJN. Why Gaijin put a seaplane or catapult on her visual model at all is incomprehensible tbh.

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Maybe, but if it was finished and used in combat it would laiter use them. Still have higher reason to use them than some of the russian things that were just paper or only hull layed down. Also Its not the only IJN ship that should have float planes.
IJN Aoba

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IJN Tone

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IJN Fuso

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Etc. some other would have them too in laiter versions and are in game only from 1920 I get that. But why 1944-1945 configuration ships dont have float planes is beyond me.

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Uh… yeah? And you could also say that if Ikoma were to stay in service she’d eventually get floatplanes. That doesn’t mean they should go add floatplanes to ships that never even had the equipment to carry them.

iirc their reasoning for not giving those ships floatplanes are something along the lines of “well they weren’t carrying seaplanes at this one specific moment so you can’t get them even though all the equipment is still there”. Which is really dumb.

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Amagi

With proper tactics Amagi and Mutsu will eat Scharnhorst alive with ease

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Well russo-japanese war era battlecruiser the Ikoma is different from after ww1 era battleships/battlecruisers. Even if Ikoma was not scraped due to treaty it certainly be laiter and would not participate in ww2 as it would be way to obsolete to keep up with rest of the fleet. Amagi on the other hand is 1920 design so if 1914-15 designs like Fuso and Ise got upraged to carry float plane. The Amagi would certainly too without doubt. Gaijin should give it functional float plane in game not just visual mock up. And Aoba, Tone, Fuso should get their float planes too no matter if they like didnt carry them for some mission or when they got sunk. They used them for most of their service and have the catapults in game to do so.

I see no difference. Amagi is supposed to be how she was when she would’ve been commissioned into the fleet. She should have a floatplane as much as Ikoma should. They should delete it off the model because it is not supposed to be there. It is no different to adding a floatplane to Ikoma or Settsu. None of these three ships existed at the same time as the catapult or floatplane. Hypothetical service or modernizations are irrelevant as she is not supposed to be a hypothetical upgrade.
Not only that but the model for the turrets is extremely wrong already. You’ll notice they have ~305mm of armor on the front and not ~460 as per the Nagato class modernization. They’re not going to bring the floatplane into functionality. They’re just going to ignore it and pretend it doesn’t exist because they’re too cheap to fix the model.

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Same place it is for the USS Wyoming BB-32 out in the middle of woop woop & likely to never see the light of day.

If you check that dreadnought, it has a catapult on the No. IV turret with two Curtis O3U-1 Cosair floatplanes lined up on it.

Oddly it wasn’t always on the ship & were added later yet were never added completely & will disappear completely in a match/ test sail.