Well, it’s all about Fakour-90… Especially when its performance is way better than Aim-120, AAM-4 and PL-12. I’m kind of curious if R-27EA is better than this Fakour-90 in War Thunder.
Am I the only one who thinks the F-14 IRIAF is still significantly overperforming at its current BR?
by the fact that one is Fox-3 and the other Fox-1 the Fakour-90 its way WAY better beyond 8 to 10km than the R-27ER, lest than that the R-27ER win only by maneuverability
Probably. Its low-maneuvering missiles aren’t particularly great outside of medium to long ranges, and multipathing/chaff-on-notch entirely defeats them at all altitudes.
It’s better than the F-14A at the same BR, so it should go up.
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The standard F-14A is over-BR’d currently, it is the most unplayable aircraft in the game, and I’ve played the worst aircraft in-game which sadly includes the standard F-14A now.
And before you say “But AIM-54.” AIM-54s have a MINIMUM range of 20km, anything within 20km can’t die to AIM-54s, and the meta for F-14A standard has always been to use the AIM-7s because they’re better in long range engagements against single targets as well as infinitely better in short range engagements.
There’s a reason F-14A is called the F-4J that can turn better.
There’s no reason to play the F-14A when you can play the F-14A [F-4J] at 12.0 with slightly less energy retention.
It is not. ARH missiles shouldn’t be below 12.7.
How?
That isn’t true. Wasn’t the whole meta climb as much as you can, and launch Aim-54s, and then rearm? It still is the meta when using the IRAF from my observations.
Only if you ignore the entire reason why the F-14 is at 12.7.
Plus, if they’re the only ARH slinger, their advantage comes not from having super good missiles, but from being able to force the enemy team into a defensive position.
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AIM-7C is at 9.3 BR, a radar missile.
France has a radar missile at 8.3.
Why don’t you mention those? Maybe it’s cause you don’t realize how bad AIM-54 actually is.
Maybe you should try using AIM-54 yourself. Best case, absolutely best case, you’ll get one frag every 6 launches on average, and that’s perfect launches.
F-14A’s time to climb is trash, you can’t climb fast.
The IRAF doesn’t use AIM-54s, thus is a false equivalence fallacy.
Fakours to AIM-54s are AIM-7Es to AIM-7Cs.
F-14A is 12.7 because Gaijin made a mistake lumping it with the F-14A Iran, that’s it.
F-14A was a chronically average 12.3 where the EJ Kai was a superior aircraft than it.
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Because those are SARH missiles that aren’t terribly good.
11.3 planes should not be facing ARH missiles under any circumstances. They can easily force whoever you are shooting at into a defensive position.
Can you elaborate more on this? I’m saying that the F-14A is a 12.7 plane, which means that the F-14 IRAF should be 13.0 due to being objectively better.
F-14A Iran isn’t even as good as most of the 12.7s let alone any of the 13.0s.
F-14A standard is inferior to all 12.7s in the game, and some 12.3s.
F-14A Iran should stay where it is, F-14A standard should move back to 0.3 above F-4S where it belongs as the airframe performance is the primary difference between the two.
Just cause F-14A standard has a skill-check missile doesn’t make the weapons better.
Just as when I talk about F3H having a skill-check missile doesn’t make it better than the F-100D or Ayit if you want a slower aircraft in the example.
I think its one of those it should but cant situations.
Like the FA2 really shouldnt be above about 12.0, but AMRAAM naturally force it much higher
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Half of the forum have had enough of your strange talk, AlvisWisla. Save it for yourself please, we don’t need comedian here.
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F-14B, FA2, and Viggen Di are equivalents to me, and that’s not cause of the AIM-54 on F-14B, but more its airframe performance with its 4x4 AIM-7 and AIM-9L kit.
F-14A has the acceleration performance of a… dang nothing off the top of my head, it’s close to a Phantom though.
Also @Renamed83048 [lol at toxic username], weird of you to imply half of the forum opposes decompression and game balance that I and almost all of the forum push for.
The vast majority of my takes have the full weight of the forum, almost always others saying the takes before I do. I just repeat them cause they’re good ideas, the forums’ most popular takes represent me more often than not.
Please stop acting like you represent the forums.
Asking for the F-14A to go down is pro compression, since that just allows it to wreck 11.3s that can barely touch it.
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This has been my take since before the new forums. I forgot how to word it again until now, but it’s there and I’ll say it more often.
The forums representing me =/= me representing the forums, please stop with posting opposite of reality.
Also you want F-4J and FG1 to go up in BR?
11.3s aren’t wrecked by F-4Js, and were never wrecked by F-14As.
Saids a guy trying to justify F-14A at 12.3.
If you want to know how much of the forum is against people like you who always try to justify biased vehicle, just create a topic and say “I think F-14A should go to 12.3 and you guys are all skill issue”. You dare not, do you? You know what the reaction will be.
Stop pretending to be innocent. Anyone spending more than 3 hours in the forum under air tag won’t buy it.
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@Renamed83048
Go make that topic then.
That is not my opinion and never has been as I do not look down on others.
ALL at standard F-14A’s BR are superior to it, and F-4J is 12.0 with the same anti-fighter weapon systems and radar capability.
Now, you can claim F-14A should be 12.3, or F-4J should move up to 12.3. Either way, the aircraft the standard F-14A has at its BR are all better options to play.
Even the Viggen Di is a far better option to play.
Now, I haven’t played a spaded F-4J yet, but I have a spaded F-4 FG1 you can look at, and its performance is nice.
The fact F-14A and F-4F ICE share only 0.3 difference despite the F-14A having inferior engines, radar, RWR, and weapons is quite the comedy.
All because the F-14A has a wing sweep functionality that lets it dogfight.
It’s like Kurnass 2000 vs F-16A, yeah the F-16A dogfights better with the same weapons.
As for AIM-54 being a skill-check missile, there are thousands of posts before mine saying that on the old and new forum.
Fakour-90 does not outperform AiM-120
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Very funny, had you checked the stats of all missiles, you’d notice that Fakour-90 at current version is faster than R-27ER and the range is superior too. And R-27ER is better than most ARH in game on those two stats.
Fly an S shape and your Fakour will be blind
the fact that R-27ER is better in stats than AIM-120 and in the actual gameplay got absolutely no chance against it is proof enough that those stats are meaningless