You’d be wrong. SPAA in those BRs are exceptionally weak now… it sounds like you’re a time traveller from 2021 or 2022.
L.O.L. Try to shoot down a plane in French CCKW or crusader AA… CAS is OP, deal with it.
wanna play air battles? go play air battles. Ground battles should be with LIMITED air support, thats how it should look like, not hopping in light tank, get 2 kills and decimate entire enemy team with Me 410/P61…
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I play 10+ most of the time and only missiles cas ( tv or laser ) are expensive in SP, spawn with cannons or AA missiles its pretty cheap. If I am correct (98% sure ), it doesn’t even requieres a kill, with a zone cap, assist or scout, you can spawn them
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Well…that is the result of the “pure tankers’” constant whining and guess what: they want the spawn requirements to rise even further.
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problem is that most players - aka those “i want ma ground only mode” dont want to hop in a AA or a plane to counter CAS, they just see tanks… but what most dont understand is that Ground Realistic battles stands for well… Reality aka what happens in a real war/battle scenario where tanks are not alone on a battlefield, thare are support vehicles/planes/ helis etc. If you want cheaper SP for CAS, play a LT and you can get faster and cheaper in a CAS plane… thats mostly best thing you can do in order to play more CAS.
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To be fair i can agree on that most of players down spawn SPAA at all. And 1-3 good players in SPAA can delete CAS. But some nations on some BRs have problem with having capable SPAA (Not Germany or Russia) like in France where you have same 4.3 SPAA until you research 8.3 radar one. That is why i would love to see more SPAAs that would be added to all TT filling the massive gaps they have there.
But on the other hand spawning CAS with full load out was pretty easy. I remember a German puma (low tier) or M22, BT-5 rushing the cap point, capping it and then J out to spawn a fully loaded CAS… So i agree that there should be SP increase for fully loaded CAS so you need to do something more then just cap and get a assist. The SAM SPAAs are also wonky lately with all those missiles change.
i know what you’re saying… it should not be possible to spawn in a vehicle with max 2.0 br than the rest of your lineup… this should cover the low tier vehicles to rush for CAS you mentioned.
Is it really that hard?
Yesterday I was able to spawn into a plane with 114 SNEB (400mm pen) rockets by just getting one kill.
Last time I checked, I was able to spawn into fully loaded russian P-47 right after just capping a zone.
Then even if You need 800 SP to spawn in whatever plane You want, then You use scouting mechanism and get it cheaper without any issue.
If anyone is having a problem spawning in the air right now, he should consider getting better. Otherwise Gaijin could just allow anyone to spawn in fully loaded air vechicle from the start… oh wait they tried it and it failed.
WT CAS is too expensive to spawn. A jet with full ground ordnance and ground ammo belt (costs alone 130 spawn points) costs almost 900-1000 spawn points.
Its especially bad since top tier matches are over rather fast. Sometimes around 5 mins before everything is basically just a mopup phase with looking for the last two guys. There is just no way to use fixed wing cas in a meaningful way. Earning 1000 spawn points takes usually longer than a typical match or at least when you spawn in its just not much left to do.
Problem of the high SP costs is not the problem itself, its the problem that after you get this high amount of needed SP, you hop in the airplane and in next 10 sec you get obliterated from 15 km away by a SPAA with 70 SP… its just not fair. i am talking about top tier here ofcourse.
If You fly in a straight line then this is skill issue again.
yeah because you can really spot a SAM in the air while you’re looking in the scope to find targets…
If You managed to gather enough SP in order to spawn a plane on a B.R. where SAMs can fire missles and hit You at 15km distace, You should know that one can be on place and not fly in a straight line waiting to be shoot.
The last time I tried getting into a Pe-8 with the FAB-5000 (for a BP challenge), “all” I had to do was: capture one zone, get one kill and get a combination of a kill assist + the scout assist for the same target.
All of this gave me a mere surplus of 10 SP above the amount required for the spawn after it had already been reduced due to the scout assist.
And let me guess, You weren’t trying to spawn PE-8 as soon as possible doing a proper tactic to get it?
I can say that I want to play air in GFRB mode and then do everything that is opposed to it. Or I can do what any person who wants to use air will do.
First game test: 2 kills - able to spawn into PE-8, P-47 with bombs.
Second game test: 1 cap (already able to spawn P-47 with bombs), a couple of hits on enemy tank and I was able to spawn PE-8
I wasn’t using scouting mechanics in any game.
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And now I used scouting mechanic with Asu-57:
1 assist without scouting mechanic, one with - I’m able to spawn with Pe-8
Meaning being able to spawn PE-8 means that I can spawn with 5000kg bomb
It’s not even CAS it’s the helicopters- they should reverse the spawn points requirements from CAS to helis. Those things have super HD laser guided thermals that lob missiles for 580pts. A lot of them are premium and don’t require an entire tree of grinding to get
Yes, I was, I rushed straight for the cap with the ASU-57 and did everything to accumulate SP as fast as possible.
And only after a cap, kill and “double” assist, I had just enough SP, I guess, you were in a full uptier, if it took you less.
These circumstances are nothing to rely on though.
Oh, and btw…in that match I was able to drop four FAB-5000, because for the entire duration of the match not one enemy decided to spawn a fighter or SPAA to take me down.
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I can give detailed instruction on how to get into planes as fast as possible in topic connected to GF RB mode.
In all matches that I took, I was able to drop PE-8 because the enemy would need to recreate my tactic in order to stop me and they didn’t.
A clean fighter, which can easily intercept a Pe-8 takes 300+ SP less to spawn, which makes it quite a bit easier to get into. ;)
Also I am fully aware of how to get into the vehicle I want to use quickly. ;)
As you can see, I picked the same TD, you picked, but since I obviously was in a downtier, whereas you lucked out, I had to do quite a bit more to get the required SP.
The first two test were in BT-5. Reserve tank cost only 50 SP and by having any 5.3 plane in line-up, PE-8 will only cost 712 SP. After capping a zone and doing a few hits, You are already able to spawn in it. In order for someone to be able to stop You, he will need to do C&F before You spawn in PE-8.