Im not saying you did that is what the other person is saying. Claiming to have played 12 years with only 3000 game’s seems odd. Claiming bushes should be banned when you are using them to “Pay to win” seems odd as why would anybody hate something that is making them a great player?
You are seem like you are getting angry and defensive like some who has been caught out.
I have watched myself on replay as others approach me and I don’t see them phased by the bushes I have sometimes. No more than the camos we have. You can paint your tank white on the snow map but you are not invisible.
I don’t see how anybody can use the phrase P2W and actually be a payer themselves.
Most of us who did pay early on have suffered as long and hard as anybody else with the exception of the grind and RP related issues.
I mean if I was P2W with my mobile hedge row do you think my stats would look as shit as they do?
I mean, do I hate bush players, but then they will be mad because their money spent is useless now, so I would say not a great Idea, also, bushes aren’t that hard to spot when your looking for them, it’s just when they are 1-2 Km out and you can’t see them w/o thermals.
Yes! IDGAS if some computers can’t run good enough graphics, just have a render distance turn down instead of removing it though, that gives them no advantage, and you no advantage either.
I don’t see the harm in that Idea. Pay a one of fee and get access to everything for that year. Greed dictates that you charge for everything though nowadays. Like 80p for sauce at KFC, so much ill will and that is why people vote with their feet.
I have literally provided a screenshot of a title you can only get by playing since 2013 or earlier and my stats say I have 3000 battles so I don’t know what else to tell you. Might seem odd to you but a lot of people play a variety of games and take breaks for a while and revisit when they feel like it (crazy I know).
Please tell me how the amount of games played equates to when one started playing it.
Pay to win doesn’t mean you win every game and you know that. Also I clearly stated I own bushes but don’t often use them as I find it scummy to do so. For clarity I only actually have 2 bushes (hardly covers anything) which is also a bit different to somebody who has like 6. Any more strawman to try and invalidate my opinion? Anyway back to topic if you don’t believe they are an advantage why would you buy them and 2 why argue against an option for players to not see them. If they mean nothing why care about a graphic option to hide them?
Sorry I don’t buy that for one second. Post a video of you running around with those bushes and shut us all up then simple.
Yes that’s right it does hardly cover anything and even six won’t cover everything on tank or stop a shell going straight into the central mass.
I said why I bought them, I thought they would be an advantage like everybody who buys on here thinks they are getting an advantage, and it seems after having them for three years or whatever that they are no substitute for skill and knowledge and only a newbie or never paid a dime freeloader would say otherwise.
Fact is I did pay and if Gaijin want to get rid then fine but I would want a refund. I would demand Paypal take the money back and Gaijin chase it but that is separate issue.
You may not buy it but that’s on you not me. 6 bushes is A LOT different than 2 and you may not cover the whole tank but you can cover an awful lot and fully cover the front. The argument has never been that they stop rounds lmao so don’t know where that came from. I only use the 2 I think look somewhat ok cosmetically and cover barely anything.
Well you are hardly in a P2W bush scenario there are you lol, I think I can just about make out a Chieftain under that lot. Am I right? Do I win a prize?
Bushes are not owned in War Thunder for legitimate camouflage. You yourself acknowledge this fact. Any further inference to this is an admission on your part that you are trolling and do not wish to have a discussion.
It seems after having them for three years you’ve had them for three years. Play the game without them for three years so you can gain knowledge of their effect when you don’t have them.
That is not a win-win. If somebody paid for something that has an impact on gameplay, he paid for that impact on gameplay. If others can just switch off what he has paid for his purchase has lost its value.
If you allow bushes to be turned off, you have to reimburse all players who paid GE for them.
Skins can only be turned off, if they are unhistorical, which makes sense considering that this game is about historical vehicles and claims to represent some realism. This is just for providing fans of proper historical portrayal with a bit of immersion and has nothing to do with removing paid for advantages.
Turning off bushes therefore is entirely different.
