M1A1 Firepower Enhancements Program: Maintaining the Combat Edge of the M1A1
From DTIC, it seems like the FEP upgrades were initially just the fire control upgrades the SA got, and a system that allowed the laser rangefinder to dump a GPS target location onto the blueforce tracker.
Meaning that in game the FEP should be able to perfectly scout people if it lases you, would be a rather neat feature.
same doc i tried to submit for the A1 to get 2nd gen thermal cuz i cant see lol
It says heavy and not DU? What is the logic here, it clearly states DU as a separate addition without mention of position. Also not really reliable to give any values or proof that DU did exist on hull.
lets come back to this when there are some new more conclusive sources that don’t already have an official (and in this case reasonable) response too
Are you able to read? It says explosive.
Don’t lump all Americans in with this guy. I for one cite my sources lol
(Apparently, this gets reported lol)
That doesn’t qualify as a source
The russian Ministry of Defense isnt a source now? LMFAO You people are comical.
Yes it can be a source, but not on a tank it doesn’t operate (hell they hadn’t even captured one by this stage). Russian estimates on armour might give a range (not exact) that is in the ballpark but this isn’t needed given that we have far better sources.
Secondly the info from it doesn’t seem that useful and just points out the same weakspots that war thunder has. And seems to provide no hard values not even a range unlike other Russian sources.
it isn’t, like CIA won’t be a source for T80BVM. It is also a slightly earlier source rather than recent one where the Russians actually obtained an ABRAMS. There is absolutely no point in saying just because it is an official source it has to be true makes no sense.
Also it isn’t confirmed.
Also it might have been generalised, for using earlier 3BM42 and HEAT ammunition which unlike in WT is much more common place IRL.
I assume you’re referring to the turret being raised too high?
That does not appear to be the case:
This isn’t 2022 anymore, Russian MBT’s get clapped by the Leo 2A7’s and Strv 122’s like everybody else does.
That’s not a valid argument, by that logic the Maus would possess over twice the frontal armour of a M1A2 SEP v3.
Some designs are simply more efficient in terms of armour/weight.
I don’t recall this being proven though.
I’m honestly at a loss as to what you’re trying to say here.
Yeah, M1A1 with heavy armor packages deployed to the Gulf War, we’re well aware of that.
M1A2 SEP v3 is the first confirmed case of the hull armour being improved, it is not stated whether this was done via the use of DU.
NERA =/= solid steel.
The armour performance matches that of available source material.
It’d be interesting, but also weird.
It’d have to be one of the old models, presumably the M1A1 HA.
I’m not sure if it’d be that popular given the reduction in thermal clarity, the likelyhood of being 11.7 at minimum and the fact that the LFP would very likely still be vulnerable to any top-tier APFSDS.
I’m personally more interested in a SEP v3, that features improvements to both hull and turret alongside options for Force Protection kits, Trophy and further ammunition upgrades.
The turret ring should be in the range of 322mm.
Unfortunately, though I have a very solid source for this, I’m not certain if it can be used publicly so I can’t bug report it as of yet.
And why should it?
3BM-46 is a longrod DU penetrator introduced in 1991, the standard M1A1 uses composites developed in the late '70s/early '80s to withstand contemporary Soviet APFSDS, with ammunition such as 105mm XM774 and likely XM833 being used as threat simulants.
Well until you get certain the best we have is probably;
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/hn6WHPVB7r3K
Well you could include XM943 STAFF as well, so it has ok options for ammo at least.
in the hull, no, the turret yes and even swedish documents describe the upgrade package for the turret cuz the US didnt send it with DU, so in order to kind of fix that they did their own upgrade package it to put it to similar levels, wich its as far as they could get, if you have another doc regarding turret armor feel free to share it
Welp as far as i’m concern. We still don’t actually know how much protection DU offer over export package one in sweden tank trials (Export V1).
But we do know that only after sweden tank trials that US army was able to make export package (Export V2) that is better than previous one that was offer to Sweden without having to use DU.
Also British source on M1A2 turret cheek. (unknow effective angle, not knowing if it is export package or DU)
I wonder what the forum will be like when the SEPv3 comes with DU in the LFP and M829A3, and America mains find out that the DU in the LFP doesn’t save them from modern APFSDS like 3BM60 or DM53, and M829A3’s special tip still doesn’t let them frontally pen the UFP of a T-90M.
U better not bring me to jail cuz of this
Nah it have been post by post by (Flame2512) for a while now.
Actually LFP with DU armor and with fuel tank effectiveness (each side of driver) Against KE and CE.
LFP have potential to tank more shot. But then again we don’t know how much protection they offer.
As for M829A3 or APFSDS with Anti-ERA tip.(DM53 has Anti-ERA capability but such things are absent atm) If Gaijin model them. it would certainly reduce ERA effectiveness. Especially against side shot at extreme angle.
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