Compared to the TTD at 10.3:
- Same gun
- Worse hull armour
- Better turret armour
- Worse mobility
- Same sights
= +0.3 BR? Elaborate on your logic
Wrong, it has a better gun with handling and DM 63 105 has more pen
Depending on the version they add it’ll either have the same sights or the same sights as the Rooikat 105 and MTTD
The better turret with how Gaijin have added similar situation tanks in the past, if I was doing the BR system myself I would put it at the same BR
on par with the MBT70/XM803 alright
Rooikat 105 and TTD have the same sights.
TTD has dm63 like mk1b , mk2, mk1b has a different gun (gt-8 same as Olifant mk2) which has worse handling (at least in game) see here vs here (you will have to go to the mk2 and TTD pages to see gun handling)
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With the different optical configurations they could add a TT version after the TTD and a premium/squadron version. I think it would sell decently with its uniqueness.
Would be interesting to see if more information could be dug up for the turret weight and armour layout.
Honestly I was expecting to see it quite some time ago, but then I have also been expecting the Scimitar every update for the last 6 years…
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Technically, the vehicle’s official name should be AB9C5 MBT Falcon II, which is a development program initiated by the King Abdullah II Design & Development Bureau (KADDB).
The gunner’s primary sighting system of AB9C5 Falcon II can be traced back to the AB9C4 Falcon I (based on a upgraded Centurion, called Tariq) rolled out in 2002, , which was developed by South African company 4-Sight for Thales Optronics.
↑ Note that the gunner’s EO/IR sight is mounted on the left side of the gun.
The Falcon II turret was originally designed to have an gunner EO sight, designed by 4-Sight, mounted on the left side of the gun. The turret roof turret has a panoramic sight the the commander.
But for unknown reasons, the prototype of Al-Hussein Falcon II built in 2003 was only equipped with a panoramic sight for the commander, and the gunner only had a Thales’ DNGS-B day/night gunnery sight mounted on his hatch roof.
↑ The Falcon II was originally equipped with the same CS2000 roof-mounted panoramic sight as the Falcon I
↑ The gunner of the Falcon II turret initially had only a DNGS-B sight available, with x6 magnification and Image intensifier (II)
↑ The first prototype of Al-Hussein Falcon II was on display at IDEX 2003
In August 2004, the Falcon II was upgraded with new electro-optical sensor system developed by 4-Sight/IST Dynamics, consisting of the commander’s CS2001 and the gunner’s GS2000, based on a KENIS third-generation thermal imager.
↑ Falcon II turret upgraded with IST’s Fire Directing System exhibited at SOFEX 2006
Regarding the Falcon II’s autoloader, it was actually developed in the UK by the FHL Division of Claverham Ltd (formerly Fairey Hydraulics). Including a round in the transfer tube the total number of rounds in the autoloader is 11. The 11 ready-use rounds are stored in turret bustle with a blowout plate, while remaining 17 rounds are stored inside the hull.
The nominal rate of fire is 8 rounds per minute, but the autoloader cycle is 4.5 seconds, with one round in the chamber and another in the transfer tube the two could be fired in 3 seconds. According to KADDB, the first 3 rounds can be fired in 10 seconds, and the average rate of fire is up to 10 rounds per minute.
The Falcon II turret weighs 17.5 tonnes, while the Challenger 1 hull weighs 41.7 tonnes, so the Al-Hussein Falcon II prototype weighs about 59 tonnes.
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nice work
what uh is that m60 friend?
Excellent stuff!
I don’t know why, but that gif of the transfer from the autoloader to the “barrel” amuses me far to much lmao
One of the best info dumps I’ve ever seen
Damn beat me to this (yes i know the suggestion is nearly 2 months old, I was putting this suggestion on my to do list indefinitely)
Right now this would be a good fit for the 11.3-11.7 area
reload is slow but with it being crewless it would be an ace tier sniper, being a chally 1 its movement would be sluggish but I’d more than likely be lighter than the normal chally 1 so it should be fairly mobile
with the position of (what i assume is the commander sight) it would be very useful, especially so if it gets Gen 2/3 thermals
Only thing its missing is mobility and hull armour which paired with the slow reload will make it terrible in urban enviroments
+1
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Probably Jordanian “Phoenix” upgrade without ERA
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Was going to do a suggestion for this. It would definitely be a unique addition.
Yeet!
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Idk why but that gif sends me, just the little toss
It can reload and hold another projectile in transfer while projectile already in gun
This is a two-level reload mechanism, it will work like this.
Full reload cycle with an empty cannon and an empty transfer is about 7.1 seconds.
But if you wait 4 seconds after reloading the gun, then the next one will be in transfer and you can fire with a reload of 3-3.5 seconds instead 7.1 seconds.
So like the tray mag in the chi ri sort of
Yes, but Falcon can reload only through this tray mag. And reload fully automatically
I assume you are asking about AB9B1. Jane’s explains AB9B1 project quite well to be honest, that’s all there is to read. In 2011-2012 edition of Jane’s it is also mentioned that AB9B1 Level 3 is evolved to M60 Phoenix.
AB9B1 Level 1
Lower Quality but Colored Version
AB9B1 Level 2
AB9B1 Level 3
Lower Quality but Colored Version
Sources
Jane’s Armour and Artillery 2005 - 2006
Jane’s Armour and Artillery 2011 - 2012
