Airplane damage model issues “critical hit”

[Knuckles7080-live]

I think Gajin needs to improve on their damage modeling because realistically in some scenarios aircraft shouldn’t be functioning yet at times planes will be falling in circles and still be able to shoot missiles even tho from the wings back everything is destroyed but for some reason theirs still enough power to power the radar/avionics even tho the main generators/apu have been destroyed like for ground if the engine is destroyed theirs a timer till you lose power where is this for planes? Their other issues for damage modeling that probably needs to be advised as well that I can’t remember right now. Also I’m not saying the game should decide when you been destroyed simply because you lost the radar.

[Morvran]

@Knuckles7080-live

alling in circles and still be able to shoot missiles even tho from the wings back everything is destroyed but for some reason theirs still enough power to power the radar/avionics even tho the main generators/apu have been destroyed like for ground if the engine is destroyed theirs a timer till you lose power where is this for planes?

The worst part… They fixed it, soviet mains complained and then they reverted the change.

What they added:

Spoiler

@Stona_WT

A new mechanic that has a chance of disabling various onboard electronic systems when an aircraft fuselage is damaged by a single high-damage for rank VII-VIII aircraft and their variants at rank VI has been added. The chances of systems getting disabled vary from system to system and depend on the type and amount of damage received.

Then they remvoed it:

Spoiler

@Stona_WT

• For rank VII–VIII aircraft without the detailed avionics damage model (no new electronics modules), on direct hits the following changes were made:
• Avionics and fire-control equipment can no longer be disabled by fragmentation or kinetic damage.
• Avionics and fire-control equipment can no longer be disabled by relatively small HE damage (i.e., less than from a hit by a small‑warhead AAM such as Stinger, or equivalent munitions of other types).
• It is no longer possible to disable all weapons at once.
• HE damage to the fuselage from a hit by a large‑warhead AAM (e.g., AIM‑9 or larger) or equivalent munitions of other types now always disables the use of guided weapons, as well as the radar electronics and the RWR.
• Blast damage from a hit by a small‑warhead AAM or equivalent munitions of other types has a chance greater than 50% to disable the use of guided weapons, and a separate chance greater than 50% to disable the radar electronics and RWR.
• The chance to disable other systems from blast damage caused by hits from any AAM or equivalent munitions of other types has been reduced (down to 30%).

@Knuckles7080-live

Their other issues for damage modeling that probably needs to be advised as well that I can’t remember right now. Also I’m not saying the game should decide when you been destroyed simply because you lost the radar.

I dont know if its the same, but my issue is that aircraft can be too squishy at times. affects lower BRs more than higher ones, but instead of a round creating a hole, you loose an entire wing or your tail.

Damage becomes magnified. Its time for much higher fidelity damage models, where the airframes are broken down into smaller parts.

I would then add into that more electronics and more sub-systems being damagable. (not just internal stuff, but external too, like CM launchers, Tpods, etc)

[Tastiera322]

@Knuckles7080-live

where is this for planes

Under Modelling

Detailed avionics is the turret basket for planes tbh. They added it for a10 first like why lmao

[Knuckles7080-live]

@Morvran_

The worst part… They fixed it, soviet mains complained and then they reverted the change.

lol that’s embarrassing for Russia mains if they rely on that much since it effects everyone and not just one nation

@Morvran_

I dont know if its the same, but my issue is that aircraft can be too squishy at times. affects lower BRs more than higher ones, but instead of a round creating a hole, you loose an entire wing or your tail.

It is, I made this thread to discuss the damage model either if it over performs or is under performing I think missing factors like when in ground a engine gets destroyed the tank starts to lose power and has to rely on manual power I think a similar thing should apply to jets before it switches to the back up power unit that for some jets is a limited supply of power iirc

@Morvran_

Damage becomes magnified. Its time for much higher fidelity damage models, where the airframes are broken down into smaller parts.

I would then add into that more electronics and more sub-systems being damagable. (not just internal stuff, but external too, like CM launchers, Tpods, etc)

I Agree this would well I think it would hopefully make damage models more realistic

[Knuckles7080-live]

@Tastiera322

Detailed avionics is the turret basket for planes tbh.

Yeah but I think realistically their missing other important stuff that helps make a plane fly or probably even over performing like if a turret baskets get dmg for some reason it effects the turret ring

[BACKRAGE44428-live]

i think they need to change damage models as why if one side is even hit by one bullet should i not be able to turn its so bad if its even a little yellow it causing one wing to pull way more than the other it should only do that on orange

[F-16D_Barak_II]

You still can’t fire if your weapon control system is damaged so it’s fine