Airfield AA are important. It is the only way we can repair and refuel without get killed by a airfield atacker.
Yes, delete all AA in map and and forbid the enemies to shoot at us - we need easy victory, without pain… Wanna spawn camp at enemy’s airfield, sly dog?
Airfield AAA serve a purpose and sadly are both exploited and abused here’s a better suggestion, when the enemy team is down to their last two actively flying players their airfields AAA turn off so they provide no air cover and a 12,000ft altitude limit is activated for all active players, it would do the same thing as if flying into a map border it just teleports you to the required altitude.
This would prevent players from both camping the airfield AAA for protection and to prevent players from altitude camping.
Can tell someone is relatively new here. Oh the good old days pre AA buff where they were useless and you stood no chance rearming or refueling. Oh how i miss being shot up on the airfield
I don’t agree with altitude limit, at least at high tiers. Sometimes is usefull go very high altitude to engage enemies from above. I think will be very interesting if inactivity in airfield should be punish, like a ban from game session, after 30 seconds camping.
Instead of making a reasonable suggestion like “When there are only 2 ppl left on a team the AA protects them only for a certain amount of time or something” just go bonkus and suggest something that hurts not only the 1% of ppl exploiting it but also the 99% using their AF normally is definitely a great idea to show how long you thought about this. Maybe take a break before writing a post the next time you try to kill someone on the AF and get punished for it.
Also there are plenty of ways to win even if someone camps his AF btw
Merged with the discussion thread
And what do you guys think of my map proposal in the 2nd message.
I think we need another map layout. Air RB maps design are crap. We need more mission maps to intercept or strike ground targets and good rewards to who make these missions. Like in EC maps, but with more targets and better rewards. And we need a option to select modes for air rb. If we like more EC maps, we should have the possibility to play what we whant.
I guess it would be fine for prop BRs but, Jet BR (early Jet and Korean War era) would do better to bring back the various pre-reworked maps such as old Korea and old Berlin after 2020 or 2021 because It worked really fine except dudes who staying on runway and spam J key if someones try kill him. The problem of J Key Spammers on runway is also now no longer possible to exploit that sneaky abuse.
Here are MP’s custom missions that recreate old Korea maps. If you don’t remember, here you go :)
A classic example of a piece of xxxx camping the whole match at his airfield. Stat padder scum at his finest - a pathetic 109 doing nothing else than camping. 4 of my team died to af aaa - despite the match was decided after 9 minutes it took 25 minutes - and i was killed as i was distracted by our cat…
https://warthunder.com//en/tournament/replay/82662826070020708
That’s why i support changes if some smart solutions will be added.
Whole enemy team, five players, coincidentally found an excuse to rearm and repair at the same time and then decided to practice friendly two circle fights among themselves afterwards.
Dude. you should be proud of that. They were all to scared to come after you xD
I’m bailing out when I land and see an enemy above my airfield. AA doesn’t allways work and I don’t wan’t to die and lose SL, so if I’m in this situation, I leave the battle.
You said “doesn’t all ways” work. For me it never works xD
This is why I stopped playing Prop RB.
They just doesn’t know how to save fuel/ammo and killing enemy teams without using crutch sadly.
The problem is not in spawnkill but in the guy who is drinking tea at the airport making the match last 5 hours. or it takes off and runs around the airport waiting for the other to go down and get killed. I think this is ridiculous, remove the AI and leave this responsibility with the team, if the team is bad, welcome to war thunder, we suffer the same in ground battles. Rapid and quickly battles, if u want to spend 5h playing, play SB, or start a new life in DCS.
IF you want rapid and quick battles go to AB it was designed for it.
Or you want to just camp enemy airfield for easy kills? Like we got in ppl camping Helipads.
We dont need another campfest.
You can easily kill planes on airfield if you have enough speed and high angle and start shooting early
If all airfield AAA is to week (especially heavy guns) and mostly useless over 3000m.
You already have easy kills with overnerfed bomber gunners.
People will get themselves killed by their own errors and then complain about others seeking easy kills. Can’t make this up.
Consider actually trying to fight for yourself instead of expecting the game to insta-kill your enemies for you.
