Its really funny how they did one air RB EC test, everyone liked it, and then said “yeah, no” and never introduced it to the game
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I bet the holy Statistics did say Gaijin would make 0.000001$ less per player if implemented, so they decided against it.
Sometimes I wonder if these Statistics are real, I imagine them as some kind of holy relic… carved stone tablets. With the commandments of the Snail, which state things like:
Put forward thy overpowered premium, to be nerfed it be the next patch.
Maketh thy top tier premium, but set them at one BR lower. So they get matched up and be top tier but technically arent top tier so thy players can´t claim thy statement of “we never gonna add top tier premium” is untrue.
and most importantly: A problem isn´t real, if you don´t acknowledge it.
Anyways… I would love to see Air RB EC in the game. At this point I would pay for it, seriously.
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Straight up I would pay for a game that is War Thunder but no grind. I would pay for that.
Even if it was like a $15 buy in and you still have to “grind” I would still pay for that with the right gamemodes. Like please just make the game more enjoyable please
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Tbh i think very large map would be great even if it would actually be harder to fill. There are already Map that are thousand km^2 but u’re soon at the edge. Also i dont see a few hours, or 45mins+ game on current maps. As i said in the post nb 90 i thought it would be good but i tried largest Map i found and it looked really small (im talking Map with thousands km2)
The 1st i meant is 1296km^2 and i still find weird how is that snd taking 4300km² but actually is longer than the 1300km
there’s a middle between a 30km lentgh and 640 (suggested by someone previously) but dont forget we take mach2 in jet. Not like in heli where maps look terribly huge
This topic being actively ignored by the Devs has really just destroyed my interest in really progressing much more through this game.
Gaijin goes out of their way to ignore RB EC suggestions. No response for YEARS on a topic that gains tons of votes…
Its sad.
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I’m actually so fed up with Air RB. Its a complete clusterfuck, especially since the ‘smaller matches’ feature simply doesn’t work. I bought a VR headset and joystick so I could have fun again in war thunder sim because Enduring Confrontation is the only saving grace for me now in this game.
Hear me now, Gaijin, I will not pay for premium time or dedicate time to war thunder anymore unless Air Realistic EC is added. Stop fucking around, please.
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As someone who likes strike craft, air RB offers nothing for them, no dynamic scenarios to utilize them, no anti shipping missions, no doing close air support on Okinawa or bombing factories, it’s just the mindless 16v16 call of duty style team death match. You can only do strike roles in naval/ground battles, but that’s not air, those are it’s own respective modes.
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Wow, didn’t know about the existence of this suggestion.
Considering the stuff that are currently being added, EC is probably the most needed update for the game. with its addition modern fighters will be able to demonstrate its full potential and it would make CAS gameplay a lot more fun, not to mention the new possibilities regarding new types of aircraft like strategic bombers and some interceptors. It would also be super easy to implement.
EC would be historic for air rb, i hope the devs don’t ignore this.
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Once again asking for some sort of a response on this topic, especially with the addition of vehicles like the F-117 that really dont fit in current Air RB or AB.
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EC would solve so many issues and make such a ton of content possible that is kinda crazy to think that they never thought about adding it once supersonic aircraft started being introduced in the game.
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Back in 2017-2018, @lastGrayAngel (the mission developer for EC) worked on RB EC and it was tested in the events tab like how Sim EC works today.
Development on it stopped because the mission developer kinda just lost interest in it.
The game back then was also very different and i would argue it wasn’t quite ready for RB EC since top tier was just f100s and mig-19s.
Im just shocked we haven’t gotten any sort of a longer form RB mode since then for Air.
The game is in such a different state today and Air RB/AB are really showing their flaws at the upper tier.
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That’s just incredibly sad
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Can we get a F in the chat
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I hope they think of something whenever they add the F-18 and SEAD stuff in a soonish update
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As much as I’d love to see the Air RB community get a fresh new game-mode more in line the more modern capabilities being introduced to the game and to break this repetitive gameplay loop you’re stuck in. I’m not sure a lot of you understand the implications of EC.
First off, earnings. As it stands SL/RP earnings are extremely limited in EC. You’re limited at x amount per 15 minutes. Just averaging 1 base and 1 kill per game, you’ll earn roughly 2.8-4.0x more RP in Air RB than you would maxing out your earnings in ASB EC because of the ‘useful actions’ system EC has. It limits how much you can earn in 15 minute intervals, meaning you get rewarded for the first 1-2 kills in the first 5 minutes, and then the 10 minutes remaining you earn zero. Although still paying full repair costs for dying. I believe this system is in place because of the nature of EC where it makes it much easier for players to ‘farm’ objectives and players due to the extra freedom it offers, like choosing your own airfield, making your own lobbies, joining and leaving as you please, not spawning 16v16 and competing for only 16 kills etc…
In fact, F2P ASB players actually often have to go play Air RB to ‘save up’ enough SL so that they can afford to keep playing the game mode they enjoy (EC). It’s definitely not suited for progressing through the ranks in a tech-tree.
Also at any given time, RB offers more ground targets to attack than EC would, it’s not some saving grace in that department that’s for sure. Sometimes you have to wait 30 minutes for a ground-battle to spawn in, which one single A10 or AV8B can clear out alone in less than a minute.
What I think is going on from the devs perspective is that they’ve definitely heard the community want something new, bigger in terms of game-modes. But I don’t think devs are even considering “EC”.
In their eyes EC was abandoned years ago (meaning it’s also very outdated currently). EC has hardly had its code touched for years and we haven’t even received a new map for over 2 years now. My prediction is that devs will probably make a new game-mode from scratch if they want to please the players wanting new gamemode to break the gameplay-loop. And I’m all for that
That being said, this thread is definitely getting that message across, so I vote yes.
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Imo the issues regarding AI broke spawn and earnings could be easily adjusted to a more balanced way, there’s a lot of ways to do so. Regardless, i don’t expect EC to be exactly how it is right now in sim battles if ever introduced, sometimes we talk about it in a way that makes it look perfect, but it’s not, it’s just that Air RB is so shitty that most of us would be satisfied with such mode which is superior in every single aspect.
I’d love to talk about what should be changed/added/removed to improve the mode.
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I think when most of us are referring to “EC”, we’re just trying to find the best description of what we want. Agreed that EC has many issues and is basically abandoned by the devs.
Maybe it’s not called EC or it’s some modified version of EC.
I had proposed an Air Arena mode in this section a while back that kind of took the idea of EC and expanded upon it.
I think we’re all talking about something very similar though,
- RB controls and views
- Longer match duration
- Large maps
- Respawning
- Varied Air to Ground objectives
- Varied Air to Ship objectives
- possible options for SEAD
- semi - intelligent AI
- more spread out players so PVP is a bit less of a cluster F
- game mode mechanics that are designed to assist the team being steamrolled. - AI assistance, boosters, reduced repair cost, etc.
Maybe its not called EC but its in the spirit of EC
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For me EC is essentially a mixture of 4 aspects:
1)Multiple airfields;
2)Possibility of respawning;
3)Large Maps;
4)PVE content.
If later they’ll change how any of these work is another story
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I really enjoy the standard air rb, but I would absolutely love to have this as a separate game mode. +1
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that’s gonna take an entire new game engine sadly (sarcasm)
Current AI doesn’t know how to use radar or radar guided missiles (it can use heatseekers though), and is stuck in the prop-era “get behind the opponent” mentality that doesn’t really work in jet battles. Making more intelligent AI is a whole project all on its own.
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