Hey man, what br are those aircraft? The uh. F14 and F18 specifically?
I don’t man look it up yourself durr
is the F-14A not a vietnam era jet?
Oh, you cant say because admitting theyre 12.7 and then makes the m2k under tiered
Ok so were just gonna ignore the MiG-23MLD at 11.7 then when it’s more modern than anything at that BR bracket
Asking for BR 16 isnt stupid its probably the minimum the game needs
Trouble is it isnt hapoening so we are left trying to get bad performing vics moved and its just the same old…ya compress the game more bro.
So you see.
I like, excluded that one specifically because its also under tiered.
But way to go avoiding again
You do realize that vehicles are balanced by combat effectiveness in the game and not the era they were made, right?
Right. Thats why the BRs didnt increase when we got Gen 3 jets
Well they didn’t increase by 4 steps like some people wanted at the time, like some are still doing today
So what? It still increased because a new gen of jet was added.
Kinda makes this like, not an accurate statement.
Using December stats.
Personally, i think the effectiveness of the Mk2 is the same as a 12.7 F18
If the C-S5 is the example of similar performance at 12.7, seems like it would be just about the same. Given the C-S5 does .75 a game. Seems the 18s arent really that far behind.
The S5 is a tech tree plane so it doesn’t have the same players using it as to compared to the S4 which a lot of people got regardless of their skill level. If the S5 was an event vehicle and the S4 was a tech tree one they would basically keep the same KD’s and win ratios. But if you objectively look at the S5 compared to other 12.7 aircraft it doesn’t share the same advantages and still plays like an S4 at 12.3. Also I wouldn’t be surprised if the KDR on the S5 is moreso from when it was 12.3 still and when it got moved up less people ended up playing it because it doesn’t have a good matchmaker.
So what. its 80k games. You cant skew the numbers in favor of good or worse players. a .75 lines up with the avg player kills per game globally.
So much more used that it has a whole 20k more games played last month.
what?
But yet it has similar, or above average stats compared to the 18s
You’re looking at it at a purely statistical level the same way people complain Gaijin does too much, which is a problem in of itself. Objectively speaking the S5 is more of 12.3 aircraft just because it’s most similar to those aircraft that belong there.
No, the numbers here help provide “Combat effectiveness”
You left that part out because you were making the modern era argument
Oh, i actually kinda never was. It was actually to point out that the less modern jets are performing the same or better as the more modern Mirage 2000C-S4/5
You actually kept on the whole “era” thing while i repeatedly asked you “What br are those aircraft”
It was also to point out the Mirage 2000C-S4/5 likely saw AMAAMS irl, so stop crying about it in game
The S4 still sees amraams at 12.3 what are you talking about?? It’s literally the difference between seeing planes that carry like 4 amraams as opposed to 8 or something like on the F-15. These are two basically identical planes being treated more differently than they should when theres other examples in game that don’t do that
I know you have issues with like, message permanence and all. But you like, had this huge cry over them seeing ARH missiles if it went to 12.7
My bad for thinking you could put the 2 together.
Notice how he says nothing about the rest of the post? Curious.
Anyways, this isnt worth talking about with you anymore.
You like to move the goal post, or adhoc rationalization. So, no one is ever gonna “win” this topic against you.
Are we talking about the aircraft or are we talking about me? Because you don’t have good reasons for your balancing other than “your argument sucks” even though I’m showing you why the S4 and S5 being treated differently doesn’t make sense.