AIM-7C/E: do they do anything?

I never addressed anything related to balance in this topic. I just talked about the missiles.

Talking about missile performance inevitably relates to balance, it makes no sense to divide it as such.

No, I can talk about the missiles themselves without relating to the specific balance of whichever platforms use them. Stay on topic.

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It’s arguably the worst SARH in the game, end of topic. While the Mirage has a very competitive stock alternative (530) instead of the weaker researcheable variant (511), for the F3H-2, it’s just the AIM-7C. It’s the worst SARH in the game, even within its context.

AIM-7B ARH when (older than 7C)

Are you hallucinating? Is not that I disagree with you. I just never gave my opinion on the topic and you keep arguing with me for whichever reason.

You said the R511 was on another trash level. It’s subpar for its rank, but it’s not even the main missile for any plane that is allowed to use it. Building a comparison between the 7C and 511 is completely irrelevant.

You said the R511 is worse than Aim7C which is arguably not, both are borderline useless but the R511 can be used on an 8.3 voiture which works against tu-4 strategic bombers in a downtier, that’s all. I never commented about BR’s or balance. Just replied as a follow-up of you saying the Aim7C is worse than R511.

While 511s doesn’t have the best performance, it has a better seeker, and a better platform to guide it. By pure context, 511s are more capable to hit anything than 7Cs, that makes the latter automatically worse lol.

I disagree, the R511 pulls better but tracks horribly

pls go have some fresh games with the 7Cs before even trying to be compelling, i just had to play the Mirage IIIC during the last event on the grind for the Mirage F1C, and i had a pretty decent experience as far as i tried 511s for some 4 to 6 games.

Never had such with the AIM-7C, as the platform is directly another downside.

You keep arguing with me about something I never talked about

again is just incapable of having missile to wok properly the aim 7fs do it just constant misses

I’ll just answer you with quotes if you’re going to be redundant.

Thanks for proving my point. As you can see I never talked about balance or needed BR adjustments.

Again. Stop arguing with me about something I didn’t say. I won’t reply anymore because this convo is completely useless for the topic

Neither did i in my last 4 answers. You said back to topic, and so did i. You got stuck on that for like 5 answers ago.

What was your range and aspect? Especially in sim it’s easy to launch outside of the WEZ.
7Cs are one of the worst SARH. Better than R3R, R511, and R530, but not really anything else. It needs a pretty short range and a clean shot.
The 7E though is a respectable missile. Still relatively short-range but agile with enough energy.

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Moaning? Lol that’s you who where moaning about a CW missile who can’t match Pulse missiles.

Learn some respect before answering again.

Please try to avoid any conflicts and keep the discussion constructive.

thank you.

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Any and every range/aspect, but the result is always the same: ‘power on’ message at bottom of screen, then nothing, nothing, nothing, no ACQ mode on the missile, nothing happens. I never get to launch because the missiles (7C/E) never even try to lock.

Most blatant case I was at something just over 7km in the F3H with contrail maybe a couple km above coming right over the top (probable Yak-28). Radar identified enemy easily and locked on; tried to lock the missile all the way until target flew overhead, but it never even tried to acquire. In such a situation a 511 would immediately go into ACQ and would usually lock - what happens after launch might be anyone’s guess, but at least the missile ‘works’ in some fashion. AIM-7s simply function as ballast.