U speak of an old meta that is no longer here , su33 and su27 would be extremely OP in sim if they were 13.0 ,they would dominate everything due the missiles it has, now u have su34(with a ton of r27et) su30 j11b rafale on the red team that are extremely capable and have a much better radar than the blue time while aim120b has the best range in everyother aspect its bad or mediocare , the sim comm is smaller and this change wont effect much in sim truthfully dont forget that eurofighter radar is blind if used on anything else exept 20x4 so ur SA is small compared to something like and su30 , with this missile the eurofighter wont become OP or anything like that , and sim battles still would be fair given that right now redside has better radars with less range on missiles while bluetime has worse radar with better range on missile , red gets more agile missiles blue gets better airframes (Exept the rafale).
How is Su-33 and 27 OP in sim when they’re in the 13.3 brackets which faces Fox 3? That doesn’t make sense
i said that su33 and su27 would be OP if they were 13.0 they are not they are 13.3
But they aren’t though?
Thank the snail the F-15 got released from the ~25G overload cell in big 2025
literally aren’t lmao, do you even play sim?
Arguably yea, but at 13.0 there are also very broken things cough cough Jas39A, Mirage 4k, F15A, Kfir C10…
Maybe, but they would give red side a chance of winning at 13.0, instead of the bracket being unconted bluefor dominance
i meant to say that if su33 and su27 are at 13.0 they would be op but at 13.3 they are not
I also belive that Kfir C10 should go up jas39a and f15a idk about those and mirage4k not really if u would add the su33 at this br it would be better than everything u said exept the c10
The fm on the su33 is shit, as well as the radar.
The missiles are very good of course but i wouldn’t call it op nor the su27
The Jas39A IS OP right now at 13.0, as well as the 15A, kfir C10 and mirage 4K
Differences AIM-120C-5 vs AIM-120B.
Weight 157kg vs 147kg.
Range 180km vs 80km.
Missile guidance time 120s vs 80s.
Explosives. 8.62 vs 7.67
TNT 11.3kg vs 9.81kg.
I just don’t see the point in arguing.
The Rafale whould like to have a word.
Looking at stats to prove what u dont get 180km of range ever on it go try the f15e and launch both aim120b and aim120c5 at range u will see that they are similar c5 being slightly better but not a big diff what the c5 improves is the pull the missile has off the rail aim120b is stuck at a bit over 20g while aim120c5 pulls 35g directly
It lofts more, which makes it harder to notch because of higher angle
My God, what are you talking about?
I thought we were talking about official data and not about testing. You didn’t say anything about testing. It’s clear that the AIM-120C-5 won’t reach 180 km, just as the AIM-120A and B won’t reach 80 km.
This means that the AIM-120C-5 has a much greater range than the AIM-120B.
As we can see from the data card, the AIM-120C-5 has almost twice the guindance time. This means that the missile will retain much more energy and will be harder to drop.
Other planes need to be given aim120c5 if its being added. At the VERY LEAST the other hornets. Also WHERE IS MY APG-79 GAIJIN?
top tier balance would be right out the window if the AIM-120C5 gets added to all planes imo
The diff in lofting angle only makes it harder to notch if u dont know how to read ur RWR and if u dont its a u problem , missile seeker is the same and i am 100% sure that micas are still harder to notch than any other missile in game and they barly loft pl12 also lots more than aim120b and still is as easy to notch as the aim120b.
Than let the F15E/I have it and dominate , that is balanced for sure in truth the rafale without nerfs it will still be the best plane at top tier even if everyone else gets aim120c5 anyone that tried the aim120c5 in dev server will see that the range is not that much better and biggest diff is the inital pull it has