Does anyone have the performance envelope of aim120c in the Dev server?
Probably because the Typhoon can rinse the F-15E in most other areas
though the F-15E getting it at all is hilarious
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Instead of claiming the range is twice as fast go in to the dev server test on the f15e both aim120b and aim120c5 and u will see that the range is improved slightly(at best 10km) and biggest diff is the agility aim120c5 can be used in WVR much better than aim120a/b(still way worse than mica r77-1 r77 derby its on the AAM4 level almost)
f15e/i is slightly faster carries 8 fox3 and has a better radar
EFT is slower more agile and carries 6 fox 3 with a worse radar
In truth BVR performance was about the same but adding the aim120c5 would make it so f15 is clearly the better bvr platform while eft(f15 is slightly worse in furballs comapred to eft but also has better radar and 2 more fox3) doesnt perform as good in the furballs against the rafale or su30 cuz of the missiles diff , both f15 and eft are in similar positions either perform in the BVR arena or they become way worse giving it to one of them but not to the other makes no sense and i belive the aim120c5 will come for most top tier jets that could carry it in this dev server.
The only aspect that EFT can beat F-15E is dog fight anything else F-15E is better faster better radar more amraam too
Exactly.
I don’t know how people are able to defend this, because top tier is arguably incredibly balanced without one nation clearly dominating. Now we are back to the US being yet again the best nation at top tier, and most other BRs too.
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i agree exept 1 thing overrall top tier is balanced between nations atm exept 1 france the rafale is really good having one of the best radars in game if not the best one of the best missiles in game and an unrealistic speed u can go mach 2 with no issue with it but far better balanced than in the past
at least in sim untill the SU-30 was added RU had a roughly 25-35% wr dispite having generally more skilled players due to anyone no able to defend against the disgusting numbers of better missiles kinda just got locked out of the mode. And it was like this starting from roughly when the su-27 and f15 were added. they do have seperate BR’s the su-27 is 13.3 in sim.
blu would obviously have a decisive advantage on avionics on 4th gen up until ‘4+’
they had advantages on everything from airframes to missiles to avionics to spawns you were doomed to lose playing redside for a full year. on a side note the ER’s power was nullifed by 100m mutlipathing and the most popular maps being extremely flat which lead to f15a’s f16cs and GB grippens spawn camping red airfields.
Tested the C-5 now. Actually pulls 35Gs when launched. It’s amazing! NATO mains (probably) rejoice in WVR
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Yup
At the very least
it now sort of makes sense why the R-27EA popped up on the leak list
U speak of an old meta that is no longer here , su33 and su27 would be extremely OP in sim if they were 13.0 ,they would dominate everything due the missiles it has, now u have su34(with a ton of r27et) su30 j11b rafale on the red team that are extremely capable and have a much better radar than the blue time while aim120b has the best range in everyother aspect its bad or mediocare , the sim comm is smaller and this change wont effect much in sim truthfully dont forget that eurofighter radar is blind if used on anything else exept 20x4 so ur SA is small compared to something like and su30 , with this missile the eurofighter wont become OP or anything like that , and sim battles still would be fair given that right now redside has better radars with less range on missiles while bluetime has worse radar with better range on missile , red gets more agile missiles blue gets better airframes (Exept the rafale).
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How is Su-33 and 27 OP in sim when they’re in the 13.3 brackets which faces Fox 3? That doesn’t make sense
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i said that su33 and su27 would be OP if they were 13.0 they are not they are 13.3
But they aren’t though?
Thank the snail the F-15 got released from the ~25G overload cell in big 2025
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literally aren’t lmao, do you even play sim?
Arguably yea, but at 13.0 there are also very broken things cough cough Jas39A, Mirage 4k, F15A, Kfir C10…
Maybe, but they would give red side a chance of winning at 13.0, instead of the bracket being unconted bluefor dominance
i meant to say that if su33 and su27 are at 13.0 they would be op but at 13.3 they are not
I also belive that Kfir C10 should go up jas39a and f15a idk about those and mirage4k not really if u would add the su33 at this br it would be better than everything u said exept the c10
The fm on the su33 is shit, as well as the radar.
The missiles are very good of course but i wouldn’t call it op nor the su27
The Jas39A IS OP right now at 13.0, as well as the 15A, kfir C10 and mirage 4K